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AL-05: Griffith is Friendless and Alone; Ron Sparks May Run

by: James L.

Wed Dec 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM EST


An omnibus of the latest and greatest Parker Griffith news:

  • Things got off to a rocky start for freshly-minted turncoat GOP Rep. Parker Griffith when his hometown paper, the Huntsville Times, eviscerated Griffith's defection as a move made out of self-preservation that will end up hurting his district, which is heavily dependent on government funding for various aerospace and missile defense projects.
  • The Times was of course correct in their assessment that Griff's split would hurt his district -- Nancy Pelosi just stripped him of his committee assignments.
  • Griffith's move has also cost him at least some of his staff and political associates: his press secretary called it quits, and all of his DC consultants have severed their ties with him.
  • Griffith was also forced to respond to the news that his campaign downloaded voter data from the Alabama Democratic Party just hours before his switch was made official. Griffith has said that they will delete that data. Also, in the run-up to his switch, Griffith conducted internal polling on the general election -- but won't disclose what the results were.
  • Republicans must be thrilled to welcome such a staunchly conservative Democrat into their ranks, right? Well, no. Not only are the local teabaggers unsupportive of Griffith, it appears that Republicans higher up the food chain are joining the purity chase, too. State Treasurer Kay Ivey, who is currently running for the GOP gubernatorial nomination, slammed Griff for defecting merely as a "ploy" for self-preservation, and that his enrollment in the Republican ranks is an "insult to every grassroots activist who commits untold hours in devotion to getting candidates elected". (The irony, of course, is that Ivey herself used to be a Dem.) Was this the warm embrace that you were counting on, Griff? Perhaps calling yourself a "lifelong Democrat" and, in previous campaigns, running on a platform of giving "health care for all of the citizens" isn't the type of background that the Republican base can accept under any circumstances these days -- no matter how much you try to apologize for it.
  • And speaking of Republicans who want a piece of Griffith's hide, here's a familiar name who may be itching to step up: insurance executive Wayne Parker, who gave Griffith a close shave in 2008, is saying that he's seriously considering an entry into the Republican primary.
  • So who will run for the Democrats? There are a few options -- after all, this district has a pretty healthy Democratic bench. For one, there's Susan Parker, a member of the state's Public Service Commission and former State Auditor. Parker was actually interested in the race back in 2008, but demurred after Griffith jumped in. (It was a shame to me at the time, and an overwhelming shame now.) The problem is that Parker is up for re-election to the PSC next year -- so she would have to choose between a relatively easy re-election campaign and a hard-fought congressional scrap.

    The other choice is a name that any self-respecting SSP fan is thoroughly familiar with: state Commissioner of Agriculture and Industries Ron Sparks, who is currently waging an underdog campaign for Governor against Artur Davis. The DCCC called Sparks, and by the sound of it, he seems pretty interested in the campaign. When a candidate doesn't swat down rumors that he's considering race-switching with haste, that's usually a pretty good sign that they're giving the matter more than just serious thought.

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So, consensus seems to be
that this was an incredibly stupid move on Griffith's part.

And that doing so increased Republican chances of taking (or holding, I guess) the seat but decreased Griffith's own chances at re-election.  So either he's a self-sacrificial traitor, or an idiot.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


Why discriminate?
He is obviously both.

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Sparks
I had been pushing Susan Parker, but Sparks would be a great candidate. Personally, I think he would be the stronger candidate and having Parker run for reelection would be good for the people of Alabama

Particularly since he probably can't beat Davis


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Let's stop parking all over the place
and start making some sparks?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Sparks! Sparks! Sparks!
Well I'll be damned, this may work out heavily in our favor.  We get to watch that clown go down to defeat in a GOP primary and have a great shot at electing a proper Southern populist.

Sparksmania!
Let the Sparksmentum begin. I say we all send his office babka to show that the SSP community is enthusiastic about him running for Congress.

So he can go to Congress
and vote exactly like Griffith has been doing?

I'm not against him running, but he's not getting any money out of me.


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I think he will be a much better Democrat,
than Griffith. I could see him voting like Bud Cramer, but I think he will be slightly to the left of Cramer.

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Suggestion
Do a few Google searches and read up on Sparks. I think he attended one of those Daily Kos convention things, either this past year or the year before or whatever.

Considering his populist style, it's a stretch to say he'd mimic Griffith's voting record.


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I am familiar with him
On the issues that would get me invested in a race, we are not in accord. That doesn't mean I would mind having him around, or that there wouldn't be some strategic benefit to having him beat a turncoat, but that's not enough to get my participation.

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Ron Sparks and Susan Parker
are Democrats from Alabama that are worth my support.  I would be willing to give them a little leeway on their voting record because they are honest Democrats who will likely be there when their vote is needed, and will lead on other issues.

They are not filthy traitors like Parker Griffith.


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Arthur davis
Isn't Sparks attacking Arthur Davis for being against the Public option?  

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Not to put a damper on the revalry over Sparks
But does he have any ties to the district? His political base is DeKalb County, which is in the 3rd District, and currently lives in Montgomery. I like Sparks, but I'm not sure if he'd make a good candidate without some sort of link to the 5th.

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I'm going to predict that in the GOP for AL-05
1/3 of the vote is Parker Griffith's ceiling. My guess is that he ends up getting 18% though. I enjoy seeing Parker Griffith go down in shame, he brought this on himself!

I meant GOP primary


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Speaker Pelosi stripped a defector of his committee assingments?
Make her Senate Majority Leader.

Hey she always had balls than Reid
That's why I always has respect for her. I'm not sure if she was minority leader back then but when ex-felon and certfied loon Democrat Jim Traficent buck the party and voted for GOP Dennis Hastert for speaker. After that, the Dems srtipped him of his committee assigments and senority. Even though he remained a Dem until he left Congress. He's pretty much was a man without a country. You could say the same about 'Ol Parker.

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Traficent voted for Hastert?
Doesn't speak too highly of Hastert (not that he needed any help).

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Friendless (by some Democrats)
The American people have decided that the Democratic administration is going the wrong direction.  Why should Parker Griffith want to be dragged down to defeat for poor choices taken by Democrat big spending?

So he wants to support Repubican big spending instead?


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Too funny
Do you remember how he got himself elected as a Democrat?

TVA.


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And also, Thane, I hate to burst your bubble
but Americans seem to prefer Democrat(sic)-style spending over Repubican-style spending.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...

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Hmmm, Question Thane
Did Erik Erickson of RedState send you over to to troll or are you here on you own rocognitance?

Anyways I see the banhsmmer coming down on you very soon.


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Just a word of caution to you
we love to have Republican posters on this site. But I would advise you to stay away from talking about policy matters since a majority of the posters here including me lean towards the left.

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Here it is...the moment you've been waiting for.
A present on Christmas Eve!

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Best...Post...Ever
The Griffith FAIL!!!

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Or, Party Switch Fail! LOL!


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We're watching this closely at Left in Alabama
and we were the blog that broke the story last week about Griffith's "should I be an Independent or what" polling that his office can't decide whether to confirm or deny.

Lots of speculation about who'll run.  

If Griffith and the GOP had any sense, they would have waited until the filing deadline in March to announce the switch.  There would have been precious little time to find a candidate as the strongest contenders would be much more locked into other races.

As you note, Griffith's not feeling much love from local Republicans.  The local Republican committee is considering asking the state party to NOT certify Griffith to run as a Republican.


An
NRCC ad accused Griffith of subjecting his patients to unwarranted pain and suffering. Well let's cause some warranted pain and suffering to Griffith's political career. Karma's a bitch.

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It's going to be...
at least is we progressive Democrats in Alabama have a say.

And, for the first time in a long time, it's not just progressives in the state who are united.  The entire Democratic establishment is mad as hell.


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IF we have a say...
not "is"

too much eggnog....


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I would go with a two prong strategy
We should support Griffith's GOP opponent in the primary, and then support the Democrat in the general.

But I really really want to see this excrement removed from the House.


Depends on who's the most unelectable
Griffith as a nutjob, or a non-Griffith nutjob?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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I don't care about electability here honestly
I want to see Griffith gone.  If the price for that is a teabagger elected in AL-5, that's a price I'm willing to pay.  I just don't see a Democrat winning this seat in 2010.

But as far as electability, Griffith is much more electable, IMO than a teabagger.  Even in Alabama.  I doubt even the best Democrat will come within 10% of either one of them in 2010.


[ Parent ]
A Democrat won the seat in 2008
Why do you think it's impossible now?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


[ Parent ]
One big reason
Barack Obama is now President.  He wasn't in 2008.

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So?
If you actually do some research you might find that a Democrat has a better than even chance at winning.

1) The GOP is NOT that thrilled with Griffith's switch. His now Primary opponents are staying in the race, so he's not getting a free ride.

2) The Democrats have a strong bench in and around the district. Susan Parker, Ron Sparks, and others, including Bud Cramer, have been mentioned.

3) This district has elected a Democrat to the US House for over 120 years straight.

4) There is a strong economic populist, unionized, pro-government population in the district.

5) Democrats hold a majority of the state legislative seats in the district.

Sure, Griffith's Senate seat flipped, and the seat has voted Republican for President for awhile now, but other than that, what can you provide other than "oh noez teh evil rural teabagging wingnuts are mad that Obama is President"?


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This is quite sufficient IMO
"oh noez teh evil rural teabagging wingnuts are mad that Obama is President"?

to guarantee that GOP will hold this seat in 2010.  I really don't need much else.  

I put my money where my mouth is, I'm willing to bet you straight up that the GOP will hold this seat in 2010.  Hell, I'm willing to give you 3-1 odds.  

And for the record, Parker Griffith won't win the GOP primary, IMO.  But whomever beats him will crush the Democratic candidate, even if it is Bud Cramer (who would be our strongest candidate by far) solely due to the long term shifts away from the Dems (largely due to Obama).  If Cramer is not the nominee, we'll lose it by double digits.

And I don't need your condescending tone, I've done my research quite well and I know these districts.  My disagreement with you is not due to ignorance.


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Ok
"I put my money where my mouth is, I'm willing to bet you straight up that the GOP will hold this seat in 2010.  Hell, I'm willing to give you 3-1 odds.   "

Great, you got one prediction right and now you're the SSP Kenny Rogers or something!

Anyway, the GOP could very well win the seat in 2010, nothing is impossible, though, considering all of the information available, I find it difficult to arrive at the conclusion that Obama's popularity alone overrides the combination of every other factor involved.

Google search Susan Parker or Ron Sparks, they're also very capable of winning the seat.

As far as my tone, I'm not in anyway attempting to sound superior, it just seems like you make outlandish statements just to make them without regards to any factors BUT teabaggers.


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