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SSP Daily Digest: 11/25

by: Crisitunity

Wed Nov 25, 2009 at 12:24 PM EST


AR-Sen: Could Arkansas even handle one more Republican in its Senate field, without the entire state collapsing into a singularity? Looks like we'll find out, as former state Sen. Tim Jim Holt says he's considering a rematch. Holt, you'll recall, was Lincoln's 2004 opposition, coming within 56-44 while running a low-budget, socially conservative campaign.

AZ-Sen, AZ-Gov: The Cronkite-Eight Poll (conducted by Arizona St. Univ.) finds that AG Terry Goddard is in great shape against incumbent Republican Gov. Jan Brewer; Goddard wins the matchup 47-28. They don't test any other potential matchups (including the Joe Arpaio possibility, which is suddenly on people's minds). They also have good news! for John McCain, who beats the unlikely-to-run ex-Gov. Janet Napolitano 50-41. They don't test the potential McCain/J.D. Hayworth primary. And speaking of Hayworth, I may have been more right than I thought about that throwaway "grifting" comment yesterday. Hayworth has been soliciting donations to pay down his campaign debt, but a quick look at the FEC's 2008 termination report for Hayworth's campaign indicates $0 CoH and $0 debt.

MA-Sen: Rasmussen's newest poll of the Massachusetts Senate primary shows the closest race that anyone has seen -- although AG Martha Coakley is still in pole position. She's at 36%, followed by Rep. Michael Capuano at 21 (about where he was in the recent Globe poll) and Stephen Pagliuca at 14. The big gainer here (and where the chunk of Coakley votes may have gone) is Alan Khazei, who hasn't broken out of single digits before but is now also at 14.

NY-Sen-B: I see lots of weird rumors in my day-to-day work here, and this one is among the weirdest: it has ex-Rep. Harold Ford Jr. (of Tennessee) considering running against Kirsten Gillibrand in the New York senate primary. Ford has been living in New York for the last few years (and is currently an executive at Merrill Lynch -- not exactly a good political launching pad these days), so his run would at least be legal, but it's not clear whether he has the name rec among anyone but news junkies to overcome his lack of roots there. Glenn Thrush actually sources the whole thing to a comment from Democratic Underground, of all places, from a person claiming to have been polled by Ford. Also, a sort-of famous name was considering running as a Republican in the Senate race, but just decided against it: Theodore Roosevelt IV, a wealthy investment banker and environmentalist who sounds, like his great-grandpappy, like he doesn't have much in common with today's Republicans.

VA-Gov: T-Mac may yet be back. Terry McAuliffe is in a high-profile effort to lure a factory to southern Virginia, suggesting to some that he's trying to remain in Virginia politics, trying to build up chits in the rural parts of the state with an eye toward a 2013 run.

KS-03: Roll Call highlights a powwow held by the Kansas GOP for potential candidates in the open seat race in the 3rd, and list a few more names that we haven't heard yet. In addition to likely frontrunner ex-state Sen. Nick Jordan, also present were attorney Greg Musil, former county commission candidate Charlotte O'Hara, state Sen. Karin Brownlee, and state GOP chair Amanda Adkins. State Rep. Kevin Yoder is also running for the GOP, and state Sen. Jeff Colyer and surgeon Steve Reintjes are also listed as GOP possibilities.

NC-04: We may have a winner for the worst-designed candidate website of all time, from Republican George Hutchins, running against Rep. David Price in the safe 4th. It looks like he ate a lot of pictures of Ronald Reagan and then vomited them all over a flag.

NJ-03: Former Philadelphia Eagle Jon Runyan confirmed that he'll be running against freshman Dem Rep. John Adler. Strangely, though, he doesn't have any immediate plans to start fundraising or hitting the ground in the district; instead, he's starting a new job. He'll be playing for the San Diego Chargers for the rest of the season. Maybe his plan is to put all the money he earns toward his campaign, but it doesn't seem like the right way to get off on the right foot.

NY-23: So, maybe ACORN didn't steal the election after all. Doug Hoffman has, by my estimation, now re-re-conceded (after two unconcessions), saying he won't challenge the election results or ask for a recount, and that the final count of absentee ballots "reaffirm the fact that Bill Owens won." Hoffman promises to stay active in politics; let's hope he's as effective in the campaign in 2010 as he was in the election's aftermath this year.

WV-03: Another long-time Democrat in a newly-Republican-leaning Appalachian district is facing a challenge instead of usual free path to re-election, but this time it's a challenge from a fellow elected Dem. State Rep. Ralph Rodighiero has filed a pre-candidacy to run against Rep. Nick Rahall, who's been in the House since the 1970s. Rodighiero sounds like he's running at the behest of coal industry figures; although Rahall voted against cap and trade, the Natural Resources chair has tried to strike more of a balance on environmental issues than they might prefer (and with almost zero Republican bench in this district, this is their only foot in the door).

IA-St. House: Dems held their own in a special election last night, retaining a Dem-controlled seat in Cedar Rapids. Democrat Kirsten Running-Marquardt got 75% of the vote against Republican Joshua Thurston in HD-33.

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From last week . . . IA-3
Republican State Senator Brad Zaun seeks to challenge Boswell.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister...


Wow
Some of the stuff on the republican NC-04 candidate's website:

*Refers to himself as a proud Jesse Helms republican
*Constant attacks on the evils of the Civil Rights Act?!?!
*Constant references to "stopping Obama-nation socialists."
*Proud "Tea Party member."
*Supports Fox News
*Numerous attacks on RINOS who he accuses of massive voter fraud in 2008

This guy has to be the single worst candidate the GOP has come up with this election.


Travis Childers
Wants his 'tache back!

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I thought it was Jeff Foxworthy
It's a 1970s pornstar special!

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I was afraid
my work computer would crash when I went onto his website. I nearly went blind.

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NC4 Website
I loves me some crazy!  A double helping! Now I finally have something to be thankful for!

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This is my district
I don't this agenda is going anywhere here.  This for all intents and purposes a Northern district.  I'd estimate that less than 30% of the people here have a Southern accent.

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Good god
All the craziness aside, the website design itself looks like it's straight out of 1998.

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Huchins
has a picture of him and Libby Dole on his website...because that's who you want to be associated with while running in the Fourt District of North Carolina, Elizabeth freaking Dole. What, did she win like 35% in that district last year?

Why doesn't he just put up a photo of himself passionately swooning over Bush and get it over it.  


Look at the rest of his website
The pic of Libby Dole is the most mainstream and reasonable item on the entire website.

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Well, he has an "endorsement"
From Teddy Roosevelt. Who in reality would likely be appalled.

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the worst website of all time
was Christopher Reed's (the hapless GOP candidate against Tom Harkin last year). Unfortunately, it's been taken down and I didn't save screenshots. It was unbelievably bad.

Bob Kelleher's original website was horrible
He was the 85 year old guy who ran as a republican (even though he isn't one) and shockingly won the primary to face Max Baucus in the 2008 MT Senate race.  His original website that lasted until a little after he won the primary was a geocities page.  Even his final website after he became the republican nominee was pretty horrid.  Here's the link.

http://www.bobkelleher2008.com/

His positions were even more amusing than his website.  For instance he supported a national ban on handguns.  He also supported changing the U.S. government to a parliamentary system.  Needless to say neither of those positions are all that popular, especially in Montana.


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Harold Ford?
What's his constituency in a challenge against Gillibrand?

That is a really weird rumor.


I really wish he would have won in 2006
We would be in such a better position right now regarding health care if we could throw Lieberman to the sideline.

Bill Hedrick for Congress

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Of course I wish he had won as well
It's one more Dem in the caucus.  But if you think Ford would have been better on health care than Lieberman/Lincoln/Landrieu/Ben Nelson you would probably be wrong.  He would be badmouthing is publicly as much as any of those other four.

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I wish Jim Marshall had won


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Martin, not Marshall


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He was a decent candidate
But I'm still convinced that just about any better known moderate to conservative Dem would have beaten Chambliss.  

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It had to be won on election day (with 30% black turnout)
I doubt any Dem could have gotten 50%, but I think if the stars aligned, Sanford Bishop could have pulled it off. He would have needed insane fundraising, and to win Jim Marshall's Congressional district. Basically, win south Georgia (Saxby's home base, incidentally) and ride Obama's coattails everywhere else.

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Jim Marshall
I think he would have won with over 50%.  As would Sanford Bishop.  Both are conservative-leaning democrats.  How Martin did so well I never really understood.  The guy is basically a liberal from what I read on his positions.

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Martin did so well
by riding Obama's coattails among blacks and by winning the white Democrats who vote for any white Democrat but not for a black one.

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Hm.
Hutchins stands against FORCED RACIAL INTEGRATION and FORCED DIVERSITY, and believes the Civil Rights Act must be overturned in order to DEFEAT OBAMA-NATION.

Well.... alright?


Jim Holt, not Tim Holt


regarding that IA House election
It's a very Democratic-leaning district in Cedar Rapids. The incumbent retired because of some family illness issues. Running-Marquardt is young but has been involved in politics for a long time, most recently working on Congressman Dave Loebsack's staff in Linn County.

With her victory in the special election, Democrats retain a 56-44 majority in the Iowa House. However, we have a "six-pack" of corporate-friendly Dems who have blocked most pro-union legislation as well as tax reform.


This guy's website is worse than George Mays's
And his positions are even crazier.

Bill Posey is not half-alligator...and is outclassed by Davy Crockett anyway: http://www.washingtonmonthly.c...

The website looks like Drudge on Steroids, n/t


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Don't worry
George Hutchins promises site upgrades soon, including... YouTube videos of his speeches!

This can only get more and more hilarious. And tragic.


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Hasn't he learned anything from Bob McDonnell?
Wingnuts need to at least pretend to be reasonable to get elected--especially in blue districts like NC-04.

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Hayworth isn't raising money for campaign debt
He is raising money to pay off legal bills associated with the DOJ investigation into his Ambramoff ties.

It gets worse ....NC -04
If you click on the "Fight Obama-Nation" nonsense on the left sidebar of the front page, you get treated to a blatantly and proudly racist page.

Both Michelle and Barack Obama are compared to characters in Sanford and Son, as well as Henry Louis Gates.

And then, believe it or not, there's a youtube video of a minstrel show. And of course more denouncing of "forced diversity".

Your modern day Southern GOP.


What's the over/under
What is the over/under on house seats repubs would need to pickup for that guy to win election to the house?  I say about 120 seats or Price w/ dead boy.

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That must be
why he calls himself a "Jesse Helms Republican."

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Yep
I was looking at his website at work today.  Kinda sad when I have to be in fear of clinking on the links from his webpage for fear I might be taken to some white supremacist website and have my boss find out.

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MN-Gov
RT Rybak is officially kicking off his gubernatorial candidacy on Dec 6th at Varsity Theatre in Dinkytown, which is the neighborhood of the U of Minnesota Twin Cities (50k students.)

He was one of the first high-profile Minnesotans to endorse Obama during the primaries and now it's pretty evident that he's aiming for his niche to be the Obama niche.  He's building up his candidacy with college students, who are the main people who get involved in campaigns this early in the cycle.  And then I imagine he'll have a great appeal with also the college educated upper middle class demographic, much like Obama.  This is definitely a winning strategy in MN as we have probably one of the highest college populations in the country in comparison to population as a whole.

Then with the college educated, upper middle class.  Minneapolis/St Paul suburbs are known to have some of the highest ratios of college educated individuals in the country, and the upper middle class suburbs have trended Dem very quickly, Obama did extremely well out there, and no other candidate really has any natural gravitas to claim these voters.

Although I think Kelliher should be able to really well in the suburbs, she's the only woman candidate with a shot at this thing so Im sure she'll get a lot of support from suburban women.


George Hutchins NC-04
ugh that website is terrible. Whats even worse is what's written in in - the guy seriously says that the 1964 civil rights act is the worst piece of legislation ever. He wants to end desegregation!

AC1
As a Republican let me say that is just wrong on so many levels.  If he is the nominee we have another David Duke situation on our hands.

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It is my district
Let me just say, NC-4 is about as "Northern" as a district as you will find in the South.

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NC
Would it be fair to say that the NC Congressional and state legislative maps are a D gerrymander right now?

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I think there were legal issues with the 2002 map
Resulting in parts getting thrown out or something like that.  but it's still technically a Dem gerrymander.  Though it probably could have been a bit more aggressive.

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Probably
although given Obama's performance in 2008, the current balance is probably fair.  You have to remember that North Carolina is much more Democratic at the state level than it is for President.  Given that Obama narrowly won the state, the splits are probably fair.

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Oh it gets better...
He position on male homosexuality is in line with the bible's - that it is a crime and male homosexuals should be stoned to death. Female homosexuals however...he loves them. Check out his message board on there.

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I bet he does
Dirty boy!

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MA-Sen
I wonder how the race would change if it were just Coakley vs. Capuano. It's possible that Pagliuca and Khazei are hurting one or the other disproportionately, although there doesn't seem to be any intuitive evidence suggesting that they would take more from the other. Either way, if Coakley wins with below 50%, it's a question that deserves to be asked.

The Full Term
And of course the answer is important as it could tell us if there'll be another contested primary soon for the full term.

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Markos on NC-04
"America is a Great Nation, due to our Diversity; but ONLY WHEN, This Diversity is VOLUNTARY."

Raise your hand if you volunteered to be born as whatever sex, race, and ethnicity you are -- kos


Harold Ford
That's a really weird rumor. I figure he'd run to Gillibrand's right, and I don't see how he could win on that basis.

Run to Gillibrand's right...
...and convince NYC Democrats that he is sufficiently liberal.

I think the odds of winning either Powerball or MegaMillions are better....


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I await his endorsement of marriage equality. . .


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KS-03
Even though Republicans are playing nice now, I give it 3 months until the moderates and conservatives are at each others' throats. One hopeful sign for Dems: I've counted only one moderate (State Rep. Kevin Yoder, although I'm not sure where Musil stands) interested in the seat. Dems have a good shot if one of the conservatives wins, especially Crazy-Eyes Colyer (with the possible exception of the conservative-but-not-crazy Jordan).

Of course, with only one moderate in the race and a ton of conservatives, a split vote could hand Yoder the nomination--and the seat.


Are there any "party-switchers" who could run?
Last I remember, Sebelius seemed magical in convincing moderate Rs to convert, e.g. current Gov. Parkinson.

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Yoder, actually
There were tons of rumors that Dems were trying to get moderate state rep. Kevin Yoder to switch sides. He seems like the ambitious type who might just do it if he could win a seat in Congress. Other than that, State Rep. Lisa Benlon used to be a Republican. Pro-gay-marriage former State Sen. David Adkins would be a good choice, too, but I think he moved to Kentucky to run some good government institute or something. That said, our bench in KS-03 isn't terrible and we could probably find an actual Democrat who could win.  

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Run he will
As a Democrat he might! :)

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pro gay marriage?
How is that an electable quality in Kansas?  I would imagine it's unpopular even in the least loberal parts of the state.

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There was never a doubt in my mind...
...that McAuliffe would at least attempt the "I told you so" run in 2013. He'll need to cultivate the known activists, but it's not like he has a full plate these days.

The good news for him:
The Democrats' numbers in the House of Delegates have been so decimated that there's no way he could cause a net loss of 6 seats in 2013.

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Spratt in danger?
From CQ Politics: Rating Change: NRCC Takes Spratt to the Mat:

This week, the National Republican Congressional Committee is airing ads attacking Spratt for his vote on the House version of the controversial health care bill.

The NRCC's willingness to spend money to soften up Spratt combined with the recent entry of a serious GOP challenger in the contest has prompted CQ Politics to change the rating of the race from Safe Democratic to the more competitive classification of Likely Democratic.

Do you really think Spratt could be in trouble for supporting increased health coverage for his constituents?


Certainly
He is one of the four Democrats who voted for the health care bill who will hurt by the vote.  (Note I am not saying that all the other Dems who voted yes will win, I am merely saying that if they lose, they would have lost even if they voted no.)

The other three are Tom Perriello, Vic Snyder, and Marion Berry (who's safe).

I would consider SC-5 a tossup today unless opponent Mick Mulvaney is an incompetent candidate.


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Berry
Why does everyone assume he is "safe"? He's in a Republican district. He is a liberal Democrat. He has a challenger. I don't think he's "safe"

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Arkansas
is a weird animal. It may vote Republican on the Presidential level, but the voters still vote Democratic for everything else. The Bush years completely washed out any progress the GOP made in the state.  

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This is the best chance repubs have had in AR in ages
If they can't pick off at least one democratic congressman in 2010 they may be waiting a very long time.

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Disagree
Arkansas is swinging to the Republicans.  All I'm saying is that it will take some time.  

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At the national level
But what evidence do you have that this is even close to occuring at the state and local level?  Republicans never gain squat in the state legislature and barely control 25% of the legislature seats.  Dems also control every statewide office and it appears only Lincoln is in any real danger statewide in 2010.  Even when Huckabee was a quite popular Governor he didn't do much in the way of resurrecting their party in that state.

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All the other rural Southern areas have moved
in that direction.  I expect that opposition to Obama will also increase Republican support for local and state offices as well.  I don't think it will happen in 2010, but I do think the GOP will be competitive in the legislatures of Arkansas by the middle of next decade.

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A lot could change by then
For example, some kind of national health plan may be operating, and the voters may like it. The Republican Party may also moderate itself by then.

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The former may or may not matter
and certainly it won't matter if the GOP moderates, because then the GOP will probably also support the health care plan, except they want to make changes for the better.  (We've seen that line before, i.e. Social Security and Medicare)

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Totally agreed
And that would be a great outcome.

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Don't see moderation possible anytime soon
The teabaggers/birthers and deathers are taking hold of the GOP primaries all over the country.  Eventually their party will have to moderate to remain relevant, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.  And Arkansas always struck me as much more populist than the rest of the deep south.  Given the choice between electing moderate Dems or far-right republicans they consistently go the moderate route.  At least at the non-Presidential level that is.

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I have to agree with JSmith
I don't think you can rely on ticket splitting and incumbency too much longer.  I think we may be seeing realignment cascade down.  It's happened in other Southern states as well as non-Southern states.

I've used the example of Georgia before:

1. President in 1964
2. U.S. Senate in 1980
3. Republican re-elected to the Senate in 1998
4. Both Senate seats in 2004
5. Majority of the U.S. House delegation in the early 1990s.
6. Governor in 2002
7. State House in 2004
8. State Senate in 2004 (yeah, it went Republican before that but that was due to party switches.)

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


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I'd say GA is about maxed out for republicans
They control just about everything already and long-term the trends seem to be on our side in that state.  It will probably get a little worse though.  Jim Marshall's seat should flip eventually and possibly Barrow's and Bishop's (should he retire soon).  Dems will probably also lose the GA Att General race now that Thurbert Baker finally leaves it open.  

In all honestly I never understood how Baker held onto that position for so long.  I know he's a conservative Dem, but he's still a black Democrat in Georgia.


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It is nearly maxed out.
And I have to disagree with you in some places.  Bishop and Barrow represent blue seats.  I doubt the Republicans could get away with gerrymandering them too much.  As I've said before, I see them bleaching Kingston, Westmoreland, and Marshall's districts.  Marshall's seat is a goner eventually, though.  

Also, I think we have a very good shot at holding onto the Attorney General's seat.  Our candidate will probably be State Rep. Rob Teilhet, a well-funded candidate considered a rising star in the party who hails from the increasingly critical Atlanta suburbs.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


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Interesting
I had no clue who was running for the open GA AG race.  Just assumed it would be another loss given 2010 should be a bad year in GA and we don't win much in that state even in good years these days.  Good to know there's a reasonable chance at a hold.  The office may come in handy keeping republicans honest during the 2012 redistricting.

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Considering that people
talk about members of Congress in heavily Republican districts, like Souder, being merely "Favored" (as I think he and Scalise were ultimately rated by CQ Politics in 2008), I tend to agree with you. Berry's race won't be rated "Safe Democrat." But that's a long way from saying he's in danger. He might be, and it wouldn't terribly surprise me if he is, but we'll have to see some stronger evidence to conclude that. Souder and Scalise won pretty easily in 2008, even if they were supposedly not "Safe."

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He's not in a Repub district
The district is very Republican in Presidential elections, and very Democratic at the local and state level.  

Secondly, Berry is far from liberal.  He is a anti-choice, anti-gay, pro-gun Blue Dog.  And the conservative Democrats in Arkansas knows that.  

Not every Democrat in a district that voted for McCain who has a challenger is vulnerable.  Many are, almost all in the rural South are, but there are exceptions.


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He's not conservative
Yes, Arkansas is a very Democratic state. But, with Bebee unlikely to be challenged, and Democratic enthusiasm low for Lincoln at the top, what will get the D base out? The R base will be out. They will be voting against Lincoln. They will be voting against Berry and Snyder. Berry voted for HCR, and that hurts him. Remember, Arkansas is probably one of the most racist states out there. With the Republicans running against Obama, can we really assume that Berry will not face a tough challenge?

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Unlike other Southern states
The R base is not sufficient to win elections in Arkansas.  You need to win over conservative Democrats.  Especially in AR-1 and AR-4, where there really isn't much of a Republican Party there.  

Lincoln is in trouble as is Snyder.  Berry and Ross are not.  The health care vote will make his margins closer, but he is safe as he probably has at least 30% to spare.


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I bet the rest of SSP is having a lot of fun
seeing me defend a rural Southern Blue Dog as not vulnerable...

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I also don't know if I agree with this
Remember, Arkansas is probably one of the most racist states out there.

30% of whites in Arkansas voted for Obama.  Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana had 10, 10, and 14% respectively.


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Even in Florida
Only 42% of whites voted for Obama.  That isn't terribly much more than Arkansas.  Arkansas isn't even close to the rest of the deep south in racial polarization.

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I think the right comparison, state by state
is %of whites voting for Kerry in '04

v

the % of whites voting for Obama in '08

For example, a quick google in FL suggests that Obama's share of the white vote in FL matched Kerry's share, ref http://www.realclearpolitics.c...  


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On that
Alabama went down from 19 to 10, Mississippi went down from 15 to 10, and Louisiana from 27 to 14. I don't know how much Arkansas went down, but it was probably something like 38-40% for Kerry.

See CNN exit polls for the source.


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It varies
Georgia - didn't change between '04 and '08 (76-23)
S. Carolina - Obama's share was greater @ 26% (Kerry had 22%)
N. Carolina - Obama's share was greater @ 35% (Kerry had 27%)

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The Carolinas have had a lot of Northern migration
For example the Triangle area really isn't Southern except in terms of geography.

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I disagree, the people at companies I know there are highly religious
And there has been a lot of northern migration to other Southern areas, e.g. Huntsville.

So some facts and data are required.


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I agree with you
Fewer blacks mean less polarization than in states with a higher AA population.

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I don't know how much of a "base"
exists in Arkansas.  

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There is a liberal base in Little Rock
and a black one in Southern Arkansas.  Which is why Snyder, despite his liberal record, is still alive, although in deep trouble.  

But the rest of the "Democratic" base are conservative rural Dems.  They won't vote for national Democrats who are too liberal, but they will vote for Arkansas Democrats, for now.  I suspect, that like the rest of the rural South, this will change next decade.


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Yes
Vic Snyder is the liberal democratic congressman from Arkansas.  Which is a big reason he is viewed as the most vulnerable of the three AR Dem reps.

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His challenger is pretty lame
It took him six months to raise about $50k.

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Another I think is Favored
Rather than Safe.

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Tossup?
Please! Some of your ratings are too pessimistic. Might he end up losing? Sure. But I don't see how you can have him anything but favored until we at least see some polling.

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He's been targeted before
Republicans ran a one-term State Rep, Ralph Norman, against him in 2006, who got 43% of the vote. Spratt outspent him 2-1, but Norman still raised $1.3 million. Considering Spratt tends to get in the high-50s to low-60s against nobody opponents, it's not surprising Republicans are going after him this cycle.

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In rural upstate South Carolina?
absolutely.

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Santorum "toying" with Presidential run
I haven't seen any comments on this item so far.

He's certainly sufficiently extremist for today's Republican Party. I think that, should he end up as the Republican nominee, he would lose in a tremendous landslide. His divisive vindictiveness would be the perfect foil for Obama's inclusiveness and openness to diverging lifestyles and viewpoints.


Santorum could have an opening
if Sarah Palin doesn't run.  I'm of the opinion that if Sarah Palin runs, she will be the nominee after a bloody fight with the GOP establishment.  

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If Santorum runs, Romney's the nominee
Santorum/Huckabee/Palin would effectively split the religious right in Iowa, propelling Romney to victory there, and if that happens, I can't imagine how he doesn't barnstorm through New Hampshire and elsewhere. Of course, to the contrary, if more "moderate" (as in conservative, but not tea party conservative) Republicans get in the game, that'll eat away at some of the Romney vote.

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They won't split it evenly
one candidate will get the majority of that vote, and will win Iowa.


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This is insane
The fact people like Romney, Palin, Santorum, etc. are considered the top-tier republican challengers to Obama in 2012 says all you need to know about the state of their party.  Barring a complete meltdown of the Obama administration there is no chance in hell any of these people can even come close to winning.  

The only person I'd be even the least bit worried about cracking 200 EV's against Obama is Huckabee.


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The funny thing is that
Romney is considered the "moderate" in this bunch.

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He's also considered...
...the liberal, conservative, communist, socialist, fascist, corporatist, and Daoist, depending on which day it is and who he's pandering to.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

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He needs work on pandering to black people...
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Actually he shouldn't bother
it is probably a waste of time for Repubs to go after the black vote in 2012.

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there is an opening for a moderate to grab the lead
before several of the wingnuts coalesce around one person, and if that surviving wingnut is Palin (very unlikely) the moderate will still beat her.  She has no chance at the nomination, and neither does Romney.  A Mormon will not take the GOP nomination anytime soon.

If a mainstream moderate can have no more than one other candidate competing on the left, that person has a great shot.  Pawlenty/Branstad/Pataki/Barbour/Hoeven/Riley... if no more than two like this run, that's where the nominee should come from.


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Are you putting Barbour in the "moderate" category?
He's a hard right-winger, and my impression is that he's at least functionally a racist, who supported all kinds of race-baiting when he was head of the RNC. If he's what passes for "moderation" now in the GOP, that shows very graphically just how far off the deep end that party is.

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I hesitated to put him in, and should not have,
since he certainly is not Branstad/Pataki/Hoeven, but he does smack of "mainstream".

He doesn't fit the mold of "moderate", but I can see him getting the moderates if the single alternative was Palin.


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Yeah, I agree
He is moderate compared to Palin, though it kind of nauseates me to say that.

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More moderate than Palin?
That's like saying "the shortest player in the NBA"!

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Ford would be blown out
completely by Gillibrand. He was an awful congressman. I'd know because I lived in his district. Steve Cohen is a 1000xs better. He really communicates with his constituents. And T Mac? Well, he couldn't do worse than Creigh Deeds. At least I don't think.  

I think a Democrat is capable of taking Gillibrand out
I don't, however, believe Harold Ford is that Democrat. In fact, I can't imagine him even proving all that competitive; this is the first I've heard of Ford potentially stepping into NY politics, so you better believe the average New Yorker doesn't know shit about him.

On a related note, I continue to believe Bill Thompson is capable of beating her. It sounds like he's probably leaning toward the Comptroller run though.


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Vote for where PPP polls
http://publicpolicypolling.blo...
I voted for Illinois. We haven't seen any primary polls that are not internal. Kinda interested to see what attacks have done to Kirk and Alexi.  

I voted GA
I agree with PPP that GA SEN is a sleeper race that if the GA GOV goes the right way (ex: Barnes dominates crazy wingnut candidate like Oxendine) that Republicans might be discouraged enough to not show up for Isakson and the moderate/liberal coalition Barnes gets votes straight Democratic ticket like the moderate/conservatives did in 2002-2006.

A legit Senate candidate is important for the GOP to divert some resources and attention to that race inside of focusing solely on the GOV race.

But bottom line I want to know mostly about GA GOV. Barnes looked good in previous general election polls and if he looks ok in this climate I think he'll have I great shot at winning next year.  

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I agree
Delaware is also interesting to me. But the Illinois primary as ppp says isnt all that far off from now.

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I voted DE
But the others have a case.

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VOTE FOR GA
Seriously, Iskason has been polling under 50% in the latest polls, this is really pathetic in a deep red state like georgia.  If a Dem is competitive in Georgia, we are in a much better position than the pundits think.

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I went for Delaware then changed to Georgia
Isaakson versus some generic well-known Democrat (one of the soon to be losers in the Gov primary) would be a nice benchmark.

Thus far this cycle there has only been a limited amount of such polling, but as we can see with Branstad/Rudy/Pataki and the Senate, polling can open people's eyes... and even if the name chosen is not interested, others have a good baseline to look at.

Sebelius versus Moran, sombeody versus Isaakson, somebody in a primary versus Reid and/or Dodd, etc.

We did just see McCain now ten points ahead of Napolitano instead of five points behind since she fled to Washington, but that still shows he is not untouchable (especially since he could lose to Hayworth).


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Another Georgia vote here.
Considering some ethics problems for Deal and Oxendine, and Oxendine's horrible "He's back!" web ad, I'd like to see what's happened.  I'd also like to see some tests for Democrats against Isakson (such as Thurbert Baker and Michael Thurmond).

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Of all the years for Thurbert to run
He's been AG for ages and he picks 2010 to finally make a run for higher office?  And Barnes also jumps in the race?  Just bad timing on his part.

I bet Baker is kicking himself for not challenging Chambliss in 2008.  He would have had a good chance.  As are a lot of other GA Dems I'm sure.  


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That's why I think he may switch over.
He's probably not going to beat Barnes in the primary.  But we only have one candidate running in the Senate race, one who has pledged not to have a website.

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Dammit
Who knew you didn't even need an invitation to attend the White House state dinner?  That could have been ME posing for pictures with the President and Vice-President!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...

Two people without invitations crashed President Obama's first White House state dinner, the U.S. Secret Service said Wednesday.

The Secret Service confirmed a Washington Post report that the couple who crashed Tuesday night's dinner were Tareq and Michaele Salahi. The Post described the couple as polo-playing socialites from northern Virginia.

A Secret Service checkpoint "did not follow proper procedures" to determine if the two were on the guest list for the dinner, said Edwin M. Donovan, a Secret Service special agent, in a statement.




Someone totally snuck this guys in


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Larchmont NY Mayor to Challenge Gillibrand?
Republican mayor Liz Feld of Larchmont NY in Westchester County may be considering a senate run against Gillibrand-
http://www.newsday.com/blogs/p...

My reply: Who?
No name recognition, so she starts at a disadvantage. But sure, why not? No-one had heard of George Pataki before he ran for Governor. Her campaign is self-contradictory, though:

Priority number one in this country has to be [national] debt reduction and long-term tax relief.

If anyone still claims with a straight face that you can reduce the deficit, let alone national debt, by cutting taxes for the rich, someone ought to drown them out, because that lie has done immense harm to our country, TWICE: Once, when "Voodoo Economics" were new, during the Reagan Administration, and a second time when GW Bush maliciously did something he (or his advisors) KNEW wouldn't work.

Anyway, to get away from mere discussion of issues, which risks pulling the thread off topic, I'll simply assert that I doubt this kind of argument will be successful statewide in New York, even though property tax relief was clearly a factor in Democratic losses in Westchester and Nassau Counties. But it's the well the Republicans always seem to draw from, come Hell or high water.


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Isn't Edward Cox interested in making a run?
I suspect he'd be the strongest non-Rudy/George candidate.

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I've never heard that
But, I bet if he doesn't get someone, he would. I wonder what other names are going to pop up though? In the last two days we heard of Teddy Roosevelt IV and Liz Feld, some names no one had ever even heard in this race.
If I had to say someone who would run that no one has thought about yet, Joseph DioGuardi. Hey, he ran for Congress last year.
Interesting, he also represented the 20th district.

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I was at school at SUNY at Purchase
When DioGuardi got elected in the Reagan landslide of 1984. My perception of him was that he was an extremist and there's no way in Hell he could have ever won a statewide election in New York. One big point is that he is foursquare in favor of banning abortion, a total non-starter in New York.

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