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CT-Sen, OH-Sen: Bad News from Quinnipiac

by: Crisitunity

Fri Nov 13, 2009 at 1:10 PM EST


Quinnipiac (11/3-8, registered voters, 9/10-14 in parens):

Chris Dodd (D-inc): 38 (39)
Rob Simmons (R): 49 (44)
Undecided: 11 (15)

Chris Dodd (D-inc): 41 (NA)
Linda McMahon (R): 43 (NA)
Undecided: 12 (NA)

Chris Dodd (D-inc): 42 (40)
Sam Caligiuri (R): 42 (36)
Undecided: 14 (20)

Chris Dodd (D-inc): 40 (40)
Tom Foley (R): 47 (38)
Undecided: 13 (18)

Chris Dodd (D-inc): 42 (42)
Peter Schiff (R): 41 (36)
Undecided: 15 (19)
(MoE: ±2.8%)

Chris Dodd (D-inc): 55 (56)
Merrick Alpert (D): 22 (13)
Undecided: 21 (25)
(MoE: ±4.5%)

Rob Simmons (R): 28 (43)
Linda McMahon (R): 17 (NA)
Tom Foley (R): 9 (5)
Peter Schiff (R): 5 (4)
Sam Caligiuri (R): 4 (2)
Undecided: 36 (43)
(MoE: ±5.4%)

Democrats had been seeming more confident about two Senate races, in Connecticut (where Chris Dodd seemed to be climbing back up to contention, as various controversies like the AIG bonuses and his mortgage that had buffetted him earlier in the year faded from view) and Ohio (where polls had shown the Democrats leading ex-Bushie Rob Portman). Yesterday, though, Quinnipiac threw a splash of cold water on both of those races.

In Connecticut, Republican ex-Rep. Rob Simmons, with whom Democratic incumbent Chris Dodd had pulled within 5 in September, now opens up an 11-point lead. Simmons also still looks on track to win the nomination, despite the splashy entry of wrasslin' impresario Linda McMahon. Dodd had 42/49 favorables -- actually a slight improvement from last time's 40/48. Instead, Dodd seems dragged down by the economy, which respondents see as the biggest issue (at 33%) and which, for better or worse, the Democrats are starting to own. Simmons has a squeaky-clean 40/10 favorable (better than McMahon, at 20/13), so it may be time for Dodd to open up a Corzine-style can of slimy whoopass on Simmons -- maybe starting by asking him what's the deal with that teabag attached to his pocket constitution.

One other lowlight from the Connecticut poll: they find Joe Lieberman more popular than Chris Dodd, with 49/44 approval and a 46/45 re-elect. This despite 51% saying his views are closer to those of the Republican Party and 25% saying Democratic.

Quinnipiac (11/5-9, registered voters, 9/8-10 in parentheses):

Lee Fisher (D): 36 (42)
Rob Portman (R): 39 (31)
Undecided: 24 (26)

Lee Fisher (D): 38 (41)
Tom Ganley (R): 34 (29)
Undecided: 27 (27)

Jennifer Brunner (D): 34 (39)
Rob Portman (R): 38 (34)
Undecided: 27 (25)

Jennifer Brunner (D): 35 (39)
Tom Ganley (R): 32 (31)
Undecided: 30 (27)
(MoE: ±2.9%)

Lee Fisher (D): 24 (26)
Jennifer Brunner (D): 22 (17)
Undecided: 51 (55)

Rob Portman (R): 26 (27)
Tom Ganley (R): 7 (9)
Undecided: 64 (61)
(MoE: ±4.9%)

The economy may also be weighing on voters' minds in Ohio, where Quinnipiac finds even Barack Obama in net-negative territory, with a 45/50 approval (although, compared with his national approvals, that may point to this as a slight outlier rather than an indication of particular disgruntlement in Ohio -- recall this was the same sample that found a 40-40 tie in the gubernatorial race). The result is a pretty big turnaround in the Senate race, where Lt. Governor Lee Fisher was beating ex-Rep. Rob Portman by double digits in September but now falls into a slight deficit. Fisher beats teabagging auto dealer Tom Ganley, but there looks like little hope of Ganley getting out of the primary.

These numbers also indicate why SoS Jennifer Brunner is sticking around, despite the wheels having fallen off her campaign (and subsequently having been sold for food). Regardless of her fundraising situation, she's still coming pretty close to Fisher in the primary, and performing about the same against the Republicans as Fisher. That, of course, may change once the ad wars begin.

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WTF? Has the country suddenly returned to 2004-esque
conservatism?

I think it's just that Quinnipiac's sample has
I'm totally speculating, but I suspect that Quinnipiac has drastically changed its assumptions about partisan ID of the 2010 electorate, possibly based on the 2010 election.  Not saying they're wrong to do that, but I suspect this is a shift in Quinnipiac's methodology, and not some seismic shift on the ground in Ohio and Connecticut.

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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Oops
should be "possibly based on the 2009 election."

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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Dodd
I strongly doubt that a can of worms on simmons will be enough for Dodd to win.

I am hoping for a fratricidal primary for the Republicans and even that may not be enough.

And Dodd has excellent potential to be a drag on the governor's race.


Dodd poll
There is no way that the Foley guy would or should be pulling better numbers against Chris Dodd than McMahon is.  The dude raised a ton of money for Bush and I assume is probably to the right of most CT voters on a host of issues.  Foley might as well be called Generic Republican then.

We need Schiff to run third party, any chance Simmons says something nasty to him and he does it?

Please donate to amcharities.org to help build more after school centers in the Miami area.  

23, Democrat, IA-2


What we need, IMHO
Is for dear old Chris Dodd to take a cold heart lessen from his former colleague Jon Corzine and bail while he still has the chance to avoid an ignominious defeat.

Male, 23, DC-At Large

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*cold, hard


Male, 23, DC-At Large

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They need to privately poll
the Senate race with Murphy and Bluementhal.  Dodd still has some time but if his numbers dont improve, hopefully he will not pull a Corzine.  If the numbers show one of them cruising, Dodd needs to take one for the team.

Im sure he can get a great job in the administration somewhere.  But as a politician, you've got to realize when you've become damaged goods.  It may not even really be necessarily your fault, but that's politics.


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Agree
Early spring should be the cutoff. Then I think the WH will step-in. Dodd is a decent guy. I'm confident he will do the right thing if the writing is on the wall. And things are headed that way right now.

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If Dodd's Even Considering That...
We won't see it until the early spring, probably. He'll certainly want to get HC and Finance Reform through, and it'd be harder to do that as a lame duck.

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He has until May 25
The filing deadline.

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Actually he has until two weeks
before the election.  I remember that there were many calls for Lieberman to withdraw from the Senate race in 2000 and be replaced with Richard Blumenthal, and he had until two weeks before election day to do so.

Of course Lieberman is a douchebag and refused.


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Now I'm getting worried...
After thowing out all Rasmussen polls as outliera, and as republican slanted, I am starting to worry when Quinnipiac starts showing bad news for dems.

What the Democrats need to do in congress Is pass that fucking healthcare legislation NOW, as well as that jobs bill they outlined today.  If these two things come out of congress and are signed into law, I think the dems can turn it around.  If that doesn't occur, I fear for the 2010 elections in which Dodd can't win in the bluest of blue states.

20, Male, Democrat, CA-44 (home) CA-12 (college)


This may sound blasphemy to some
I think Dodd has earned the right to be beaten though, people shouldn't be pushing a man out who clearly is not struggling with his duties or someone who has voted the way he should he would.  Dodd hasn't broken any promises to his constituents, Corzine I believe did so on property taxes as the largest example.  

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23, Democrat, IA-2


said he would that is


Please donate to amcharities.org to help build more after school centers in the Miami area.  

23, Democrat, IA-2


What are the chances?
That Dodd bails on the race and retires?

He seems like a pretty stand-up guy who would do the right thing for the country and his party....which may in this case mean stepping aside for new blood...

And if so, can we do better? Still, I agree with the above comment that Dodd has earned the right to run (and lose) if he chooses...

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


OH numbers continue same, CT numbers are different

Ohio numbers continue like in last polls from other pollsters. With the level of Portman fundraising this race will be very difficult for win.

Previous polls for OH was:

OH-Gov: +1% for Strickland
OH-Sen: -1% for Fisher (losing)

Last numbers from Quinnipiac are:

OH-Gov: =0% for Strickland
OH-Sen: -3% for Fisher (losing)

Connecticut numbers are differents. With anothers dems endangering J Rell, i think maybe other dems can improve C Dodd numbers. Like for NY-Gov race with A Cuomo i think would be very interesting start to know polls with more democrats like Blumenthal against R Simmons.  


iirc

Polling numbers in Ohio two years ago also showed partisan ties, i.e. both sides with their ~38% base apiece and the center tuned out and Undecided.

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Linda McMahon
nothing like being the figurehead of a business that doesn't offer health insurance to it's employees, will not allow for a union, will fire injured employees, and i've heard there's more (or these things put in a better package) in a recent issue of Dave Meltzer's Wrestling Observer.

Has to be a heck of an election for Pro Wrestling "rags" to be oppo-research material.

Also, Dodd should step aside for a stronger candidate.


I've watched WWE for a long time
But even fans despise the McMahon's.  Every one of them has a graveyard of skeletons in their closet, even Linda.  This is a publicity stunt.  A very expensive publicity stunt to be exact.  Must be nice to be able to waste that kind of cash.

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I don't get that impression
The fans don't like the "Mr. McMahon" character but I've always thought of Vince himself as being popular. And Linda has always been a face on-screen so I don't get that either.

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More like the opposite
Most wrestling fans go along with whatever role Vice protrays.  When he's a "good guy" they cheer for him and when he's a "bad guy" (which he is by far best at) they boo him.  But most wrestling fans I know have little to no respect for him as a person.  They respect him as a titan who took wrestling from small-time mainstream, but they think he's a douchebag of a person.  And I know a several people in the industry who can testify that Linda McMahon is everybit as ruthless and cutthroat as her husband.  The difference is that unlike Vince Linda has done a good job at maintaining a mostly positive image with the public.  If she actually runs for office all that dirt will probably be revealed.


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Here is an interesting out for Dodd
There was talk a few years back of him running for governor. He might lose the primary and even if he won it would be less risky that threatening the senate seat.

News for some, irrelevant speculation for others
I may spend a moment here and there looking at poll results but the fact is that the only thing that counts is who actually shows up for the election (or sends in a ballot by mail).  While this is either a race to win power or celebrity for some of the candidates I support Peter Schiff for US Senate because he has ideas and principles worth supporting.

http://SchiffForSenate.com/


I hate to be the thought police here
I really hate doing this, but I really don't think that this is a forum for talking up Republican candidates with banal platitudes like "he has ideas and principals".
Most of the site regulars are pretty darn bright, so you probably won't get very far with this.

The appropriate line of discussion here as a republican
(or anyone) supporter might be "this is why candidate x may win against candidate y" not "candidate x is the super bestest person for the job and candidate y is corrupt; also candidate y smells like old cheese".

Just food for thought

26, D, MO-05, Hispanic


[ Parent ]
Replace supporting with opposing
and I'll agree with your post.

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