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NV-Sen/Gov: More Lousy Numbers for the Reid Boys

by: James L.

Mon Oct 12, 2009 at 4:39 AM EDT


Mason-Dixon for the Las Vegas Review-Journal (10/6-8, likely voters, 8/17-18 in parens):

Harry Reid (D-inc): 43 (38)
Danny Tarkanian (R): 48 (49)

Harry Reid (D-inc): 39 (40)
Sue Lowden (R): 49 (45)
(MoE: ±4.5%)

Hm, you mean that parading around the state with Sarah Palin's father didn't result in any Tarkmentum? That's a head-scratcher. But maybe that sort of thing will play better in the GOP primary:

Sue Lowden (R): 23 (14)
Danny Tarkanian (R): 21 (33)
Sharron Angle (R): 9 (5)
Bill Parson (R): 1
Robin Titus (R): 1
Mike Wiley (R): 1
Undecided: 44 (47)
(MoE: ±6%)

Oh, I... guess not.

Anyhow, the general election numbers speak for themselves. But at least Harry has company even further down the barrel: while his 38-51 favorable rating is bad, at least it's not John Ensign bad (23-43) or Jim Gibbons bad (14-51). In fact, it's too bad that Ensign's term isn't up next year, because Nevadans apparently can't wait to kick his sorry ass to the curb: his re-elects are at an abysmal 22%, with 44% saying they'll vote to eject him from the Senate.

And how about that gubernatorial race? Mason-Dixon looked at a number of scenarios for that contest, too:

Rory Reid (D): 49 (47)
Jim Gibbons (R-inc): 37 (35)

Rory Reid (D): 33 (32)
Brian Sandoval (R): 50 (49)

Oscar Goodman (I): 36
Rory Reid (D): 27
Jim Gibbons (R-inc): 24

Oscar Goodman (I): 33
Rory Reid (D): 25
Brian Sandoval (R): 33

In the GOP primary, Sandoval beats Gibbons by a 41-20 margin. It's hard to imagine Gibbons finding a way to claw back from oblivion, but it may be amusing to watch him try.

At this point, though, Democrats might be better off asking Goodman, the colorful mayor of Las Vegas, to enter the Democratic gubernatorial primary. He's the most popular pol in the state (or more accurately, the most popular dude tested by Mason-Dixon), with a surprising 49-9 favorable rating. Rory Reid, meanwhile, is saddled with a 21-29 rating off the starting blocks -- which is no match for Sandoval's shiny 38-7. Yet, Democrats seem content to let Rory take a crack at bat, even when the evidence suggests that Harry is displeased with his son's efforts to climb the ladder at such an inopportune time. I don't think it would be too much of a challenge for Goodman, or anybody else with talent, to dispose of Rory in a Democratic primary. Unfortunately, no hypothetical Dem primary match-ups were tested this time around.

James L. :: NV-Sen/Gov: More Lousy Numbers for the Reid Boys
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While I'm still trying to wrap my head around
the idea of second-stringers like Tarkanian and Lowden actually beating Harry Reid, I have to admit that the governor race is shaping up to be a massive clusterfuck.  I don't believe for one second that if Goodman runs as an independent, that Sandoval would get any less than 40%.  Unless Goodman is able to consolidate the Democratic vote and leave Rory Reid with under 20% total, it's looking like Sandoval is going to waltz into the mansion, probably by double digits, whether he faces one or two general election opponents.

Of course, Goodman may just decide to run as a Democrat (though he's given no indication of doing so) and take out Reid in the primary, in which case everyone will breathe a sigh of relief.


Hopefully Goodman will read the writing on the wall
Run as a democrat, easily win the primary, likely win the general.... and be viewed as a savior.

Run as an independant, anything could happen -- except a Rory win.


NV
Isn't Goodman a Democrat?  Why wouldn't he run as one?

29/D/Male/NY-01

Goodman wants to be Ventura
This article sums up at least the public part of Oscar's thinking - http://www.lvrj.com/news/break...

By running as an independent, Goodman could position himself as a "total maverick," appealing to voters who are disaffected with partisan politics.

snip - apparently, he sees himself as an independent

Goodman said he was a Republican when he first moved to Las Vegas in the 1960s.

But only became a D to vote for Bryan in a primary a few cycles back

Goodman switched parties to vote for former Gov. Richard Bryan in the Democratic primary, but said he has never strongly identified as a partisan.

nevertheless, the article suggests that he's considering an independent run because he doesn't want to bother with a primary.

Interestingly enough, the article suggests that if Goodman went I, he'd have to have done it by over a couple of months ago ("end of July")


[ Parent ]
Tom Daschle comparison?
At this early stage, how was Daschle doing back in 2003?  

I think that Reid has as a floor 40% of the vote.  The bad thing is that about 45-48% are solidly against his bid for re-election.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


Daschle versus Thune
Memory serves Daschle started with a decent lead but it quickly became a tossup. I was shocked he actually lost.

[ Parent ]
Yup
"When the race began in early 2004, Daschle led by 7 points in January and February. By May, his lead minimized to just 2 points and into the summer polls showed a varying number of trends: either Daschle held a slim 1 to 2 point lead or Thune held a slim 1 to 2 point lead or the race was tied right down the middle. Throughout September, Daschle led Thune by margins of 2 to 5 percent while during the entire month of October into the November 2 election, most polls showed that Thune and Daschle were dead even, usually tied 49-49 among likely voters. Some polls showed either Thune or Daschle leading by extremely slim margins."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...



[ Parent ]
just started reading daschle vs thune
yes, it was an 8 point lead in 2003, but thune didn't announce until 2004.  i recommend the book to everyone, very interesting in terms of campaigning and South Dakota.

http://www.amazon.com/Daschle-...

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.


[ Parent ]
Amodei
Why wasn't Nevada State Senator Mark Amodei tested in the primary and general election senate matchups?  The other GOP candidates for Reid's seat seem inexperienced and controversial compared to Amodei.

I was also wondering
On paper he looks like their strongest contender.  I, naturally, am cheering for the honorable Sharon Angle.

[ Parent ]
If you read the fine print
at the link, it looks like they did poll Amodei, and he somehow managed to pull in 0%. Seems like something's lost in translation between his on-paper profile and reality.  John Chachas, who looks like he may have more money than anyone else in the race, also got the goose egg.

[ Parent ]
That's hard to believe.
I don't know much about Nevada politics, but I find it difficult to believe that enough people have heard of Sue Lowden that she's getting 23% but absolutely no one polled had heard of Amodei, who's an actual elected official.  

[ Parent ]
Why the hell is Rory running?
This has gotta be the biggest head scratcher of the cycle.

How old is he?  His wikipedia page doesnt say.


He's 46 or 47
Found it here, he was 42 when this was written back in January 2005.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
It seems like the Bead family isn't doing too well
Poor Barry and Bory, never seem to catch a break...

Don't worry about Tarkanian
NCAA investigating RSCC for recruiting violations.

Real concern is Steve Austin's boss. Understand he has Six Million Dollars to spend.


Looks like those Reid boys
have gotten themselves into a whole heap o' trouble.

Whoa....wait, Sue Lowden?
How on Earth is Sue Lowden suddenly doing better?

In the past two weeks, she's publicly defended her ties to the unpopular John Ensign and been revealed to be a supporter of the hugely-unpopular Yucca Mountain waste dump....

And her numbers improved...? Weird.

Kansan by birth, Californian by choice, and Gay by the grace of God.


Maybe because she declared?
Got her name rec up by actually declaring

[ Parent ]
It's also possible that this is a funky poll
Even the best pollsters can have a bad day.

Politics and Other Random Topics

24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


[ Parent ]
Because no one is thinking about her
they are thinking about how to get rid of Reid.

Unless Reid shows some spine in the next year, I will be rooting for the Repub in this race just to get rid of Reid as majority leader.


[ Parent ]
A
anyone but Reids syndrome is sweeping through Nevada! Oh god Nevada Dems please do something or 2010 is going to be a disaster.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12


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