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NY-Sen: Meet Jon Cooper: Still Pondering Run Against Gillibrand

by: robert.harding

Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM EDT


Jon Cooper said it was an eye-opening moment for him. He was watching the press conference announcing Governor David Paterson's selection of Kirsten Gillibrand to serve as New York's junior U.S. senator. His spouse Rob inquired out loud if that was former Senator Alfonse D'Amato standing on the platform with her.

Last week, I spoke with Cooper about his possible candidacy, his career and why he is interested in running for a seat that was once held by Hillary Clinton, Daniel Patrick Moynihan and Robert F. Kennedy.

At first, Cooper dismissed the notion that a former Republican U.S. senator from New York - the same man Senator Chuck Schumer beat in 1998 - would be at a ceremony for Republicans. But, much to his dismay, there D'Amato stood mere feet away from Gillibrand as she was introduced as New York's newest senator.

Cooper makes it clear that he has ideas. He isn't just going to run an anti-Gillibrand campaign, but he can't help but point out her record. He mentions her past ties to Big Tobacco, the 100 percent rating she received from the National Rifle Association and her evolution on numerous issues that could be perceived as politically convenient.

"Her past position (on gun control) was of concern," he said. "There are some people are distrustful of her evolution on this and other issues and are concerned about what they see as flip-flopping and see this as insincere or they question her character. I'm not saying I do. But there are those who do."

For Cooper, however, it is different. He is not yet a declared candidate but he is touting his own record and why, if he were to run, he should be considered a serious contender to Gillibrand.

"I have, many times over the years, took stances that might not have been politically popular with my constituents but I believed it was the right thing to do," he said.

As an openly gay and happily married man, Cooper is the father of five children he and his spouse Rob have adopted. He has served 10 years on the Suffolk County Legislature and currently is the majority leader for the legislature's Democrats. He lists two key pieces of legislation as highlights of his career. He wrote the first law banning the use of hand-held cell phones while driving in the country. Since then, a number of states (including New York) have adopted such laws. In addition to that, Cooper also authored legislation that banned the sale of ephedra. That effort led to the federal government imposing a ban on the dietary supplement.

Jobs and the economy is an area that Cooper knows all too well. Cooper is running the family business, Spectronics Corporation, in Westbury. He said that while he is on the corporate side of things, he also is very much pro-labor and supports workers.

In the 2008 presidential primaries, Cooper backed an underdog named Barack Obama. Cooper was the first elected official from New York to endorse Obama and went on to be the Long Island chair of the Obama campaign. He said that, at the time, people asked him if he realized the political risk he was taking. Cooper said he had supported Hillary Clinton in the past but once he met Obama, he was sold. It was through the Obama campaign that Cooper met many grassroots organizers, some of whom are now aiding him in his exploratory efforts and organizing meet and greets throughout the state for people to meet him. Cooper was in upstate New York this weekend meeting voters in Buffalo and Rochester and will be back in upstate New York again, especially if he decides to run.

Cooper knows that he has a long way to go. He realizes that Gillibrand has millions in her bankroll. He realizes that she has received nearly every county chair's endorsement to date. But one thing he references to is that Obama was counted out too. No one thought Hillary Clinton could be beaten. But with the greatest grassroots campaign ever, Obama pulled it out in the primary and won the general election.

A vast majority of Obama organizers and activists that Cooper worked with in 2008 are urging him to run and are supporting him. Democratic clubs have urged him to run. Progressives are supporting him. And while he says he isn't comparing himself to Obama, the comparisons are glaring.

"The party establishment, for the most part, quite understandably is falling in line behind our Democratic incumbent senator regardless of how she got to that office," he said. "But she's the incumbent Democrat now and I expect most of the political establishment to back her. But a lot of the grassroots leaders that had been early supporters of Obama seem to be lining up behind me or at the very least, urging me to run so that we will have a choice, which is what this is all about: Offering Democrats in New York State a choice."

While Cooper doesn't have a full slate of issues on his platform yet (understandable at this stage), his platform stresses the importance of economic development, pushes for progressive values and support of the environment and the fight for health care, consumer protection, gun safety and middle class tax cuts.

So when will we know whether or not Cooper is running? He says by the end of the year he will have a decision. He is testing the waters right now to see just how much support he has and what the response is statewide. I spoke with him over the weekend and he seemed to be very pleased and excited by the response in Buffalo and Rochester. So we'll see just how far he is willing to go and if he is going to make an upset bid for the U.S. Senate.

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Gillibrand has been excellent in the Senate, no need to primary her.

29/D/Male/NY-01

Ditto
And parenthetically, I see no more need to ban ephedra than to ban Sudafed (pseudoephedrine). It is NOT a supplement and should be used only as a drug, in the indicated dosages. Good for him for being first to sponsor a cell-phone-while-driving ban, though. We need more of those, and tougher enforcement.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Sorry, your friend's not a serious contender......
Your friend Cooper needs to run for something lower level than U.S. Senate if he's interested in higher office.  He's not going to be any threat to Gillibrand, especially since Gillibrand has performed well and has tacked left as a Senator.  She's on our side, and that's that.

43, male, Indian-American, Democrat, VA-10

Cooper seems like a wonderful guy...
...but at this point, Gillibrand's all but locked up the nomination. Her ACORN vote probably actually helps in getting through a Primary. Plus, keep in mind - Carolyn Maloney wanted to attack Gillibrand from the LEFT; the latter has moved dramatically out of the center over the past few months. In theory, it would now make more sense for a centrist Dem to challenge her.

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Don't trust her
Sorry, but I trust Gillibrand as far as I can throw her (which isn't very far!).  Since she was appointed to the Senate by Paterson, she's flip-flopped on gun control, immigration reform and same-sex marriage. She worked for nearly 10 years as a lawyer representing Big Tobacco, which I think is inexcusable.

BTW, Gillibrand has also done nothing to help the lousy economy upstate or in WNY.

I want to vote for a real progressive candidate who hasn't come to the game late.  Cooper's got a great legislative record as a proud liberal -- just check out his website to see what he's accomplished over the past 10 years. Plus he has a strong business background with 30 years spent running a successful manufacturing company -- with a union shop.  

I want to hear what Cooper has to say and I definitely think NY Democrats deserve a choice. Gillibrand shouldn't be rammed down our throats by a governor with a 20% approval rating.


Face facts, though
Cooper won't beat her.

And her "flip flops" are GOOD, not BAD.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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I think her flip-flopping
highlights a huge question we should ask ourselves when it comes to judging our politicians.  Would we rather have them be principled and always follow a certain dogma or would we rather have our politicians follow what their constituents dictate?

This is why Gillibrand had sky high approval ratings and was EASILY re-elected in 2008 and had that seat locked down.  She listened to her constituents and represented them well.

But now she represents a whole new constituency and has thus adjusted appropriately to reflect their values.

Does that make her a flip-flopper with no real principles or is she being a smart politician?

I personally like a mix of the two and give Gillibrand a free pass considering how much more conservative her old constituency was compared to her current one.  Yeah, she's a flip-flopper, but she damn well better be if she's representing New York state instead of NY-20.


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I concur
When a politician makes a change in political positions, you have to look at the context surrounding it.  For Gillibrand, she was pretty up-front about her changing of positions and directly cited it to her new constituency.  While her political success obviously factored in, there was a legitimate reason for why she changed.  So while I am leery of her new positions, I feel that she is still overall trustworthy.  Many other members of Congress have changed their positions as their districts have changed so I don't see a problem.

Arlen Specter, on the other hand, also changed his positions but only did so when he was directly challenged from the left (recall all of his douchebag statements he said immediately after joining the Democratic Party before Sestak jumped in).  That is a pure flip-flop that I cannot respect, as it is simply to save his own skin and I don't feel like he is either representing his own views or the people of Pennsylvania - his electorate never changed.  This type of flip-flopping makes me feel that he would just as likely abandon the Democratic Party if it suited his immediate needs.  He also has tried to play it both ways, claiming that he is still the same while wiggling and squirming his way out of old positions as quietly as possible.  Even though I agree with him now more than before, I still think he's sleazy for pulling such a 180.  

We are a democratic republic, so there will always be some tension between a politician's stances and the demands of their constituents.  I for one believe that we ought to allow our elected officials some leeway - their constituency does evolve, and like any other person they sometimes change their mind on things.  We should however always examine their motivations.


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Consequently
the same problem exists the other way...where a progressive from a smaller constitency becomes more moderate to reflect the state as a whole;

Mark Udall for example,

Gillibrand reminds me a little of Dick Durbin, who was more conservative as a Congressman from rural Southern Illinois than he is as a Senator.  


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Gillibrand is a poor fit for the state
Someone like Anthony Weiner, who is far more liberal and fits the state well should have been picked for the seat.  I think if Pataki were to challenger Gillibrand, she would probably lose.  For a Democrat to win the state, they have to come from the city, Long Island or suburbs, which together make up over two thirds of the states votes.  

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Absolute nonsense
He barely beats her when almost half the electorate still haven't formed an opinion on her. She is a perfect fit for the state since she is a party-line vote.

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Ideologically she is a good fit
Weiner would have been a terrible pick...he's too abrasive and is viewed as another NYC liberal.  And I don't buy the geographic argument either - New York City or Long Island Democrats aren't going to vote against a politician just because they don't hail from there, especially for a Republican.  Please, show me an instance in New York's history where this occured.  Pataki is only doing well because of his statewide name ID and moderate profile - he'd do well against any incumbent Democrat not named Clinton or Schumer.

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NY-Sen: Meet Jon Cooper: Still Pondering Run Against Gillibrand
Jon Cooper is the progressive leader.
checkout his record:
http://www.legislatorcooper.co...
Also note that the president did not want her to hold this position:
http://tinyurl.com/lvonfd

I don't want Gillibrand to hold a lifetime position without the voters of NYS having a choice.
A primary in Sept. 2010 will give us that choice!


The President didnt want her to be chosen
because she represented a tough seat the WH didnt want to defend and have advertised as a referendum on his presidency.

Considering he personally phone called Rep. Israel indicates he probably wants her to stick around.


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Sorry for all the negativity
Dont worry, there are plenty of people here at SSP who dislike Gillibrand and are willing to support another candidate.

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Here's another item that belongs on Cooper's record
His membership in the "Rules are for OTHER people Club"

See:  http://www.newsday.com/long-is...


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Cooper: no platform yet
"While Cooper doesn't have a full slate of issues on his platform yet (understandable at this stage), ..."

No, it's NOT understandable.

Cooper has been playing at this "So You Want to be a Senator" game since at least the beginning of April.    The fact that after all this time, he still has not put up a platform speaks poorly for his energy and political skills.

It suggests that since Cooper still has not managed to decide what his issues are,  that perhaps he hasn't got any.   I agree with the poster who suggested that he first run for a more senior political job than the entry-level one he now holds.

As long as you're scraping the barrel, why don't you write a diary on Scott Noren?  Noren is the dentist from Ithaca who also thinks the United States Senate might be a nice career move for himself.


Here's a platform for you
I disagree with you, Jean. Cooper has already laid out a pretty detailed platform:

http://www.cooperfornewyork.co...

He's also been speaking extensively about his business background and his ability to grow jobs at his manufacturing company - in a tough part of the state to do so. Did you know that his company has never laid off an employee in the 30+ years that Cooper has been running it?  

I like the fact that Cooper walks the walk. He's clearly progressive, but also knows how to get things done.  Look at his record of legislative accomplishments over the past decade.

Anyway, this is about giving voters in NY a choice.  That's what primaries are all about, right?


I agree with the writer's assessment that Cooper as yet has no real platform
Having a choice merely for the sake of having a choice is a pointless, expensive luxury.   Cooper is wasting our time and his own.  Compared with Senator Gillibrand, Cooper has very little to offer.

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Voters want and deserve a primary.
I disagree with the earlier poster, who asserted that Gillibrand shouldn't have to be "primaried." The fact is Gillibrand is an appointee, put in her position by another appointee. It's odd to see Democrats running from the idea of choice, but that was also something that rose its ugly head during the presidential primary (remember how the "unelectable" Obama was supposed to get out of the way for Hillary?) Honestly, I have to wonder about an incumbent who is so nervous about actually having to participate in a primary that she would prefer that it all just go away.

Cooper brings a lot to the table; he combines a commonsense business savvy with a passionate determination to serve his constituents. He's already taken on both the cell phone companies and the makers of a harmful drug, and accomplished what the naysayers said couldn't be done. Seems like this guy just doesn't back down from a good fight.

So Democrats should get ready! It's my belief that we're going to see a rousing, rip-roaring debate on the issues,  with more than enough time and money going into the general election to kick the Republicans' butt...


Really?
I mean, I'm not against Jon Cooper staging a challenge, but a "rip-roaring primary"? I betcha Gillibrand wouldn't even debate the guy.

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Jonathan Tasini's webpage is far, far better
http://www.jonathantasini.com/

Unlike Cooper, Tasini actually discusses the issues.  Cooper just lays on one saccherine platitude after another.


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I'm thankful to Cooper
For bringing new people to SSP!

so on what isue would mr. cooper vote differently than senator gillibrand?
i can't actually find one in this.  and if there ever was a debate, i think that question would come up.

it's an interesting historical point that NY, one of the most liberal states, has almost never had one of the most liberal senators.  gillibrand, clinton, schumer, moynihan, damato, javits were all frustrating to nyc liberals for being too moderate, business-friendly or conservative.  i'm not sure why this is the pattern.  probably money has to do with it, and the sense that a senator from NY is a senator from the US, not just the state.


Upstate is traditionally conservative
Long Island used to be heavily Republican, and Westchester County used to be a battleground. Those things help explain why New York State hasn't tended to have very liberal senators. Fast forward to now. Long Island is much more Democratic, Westchester is pretty heavily Democratic, the Hudson Valley is more Democratic than Republican in recent election results, and Upstate in general is becoming more Democratic. We need and deserve liberal senators now. Gillibrand so far is coming through on that score; Schumer, not always.

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Gillibrand's a career politician
She flees to the left/right/center whenever it best serves her. She ran as a conservative Upstate, she's tacked herself pretty far to the left in her statewide primary bid, and after she earns a victory next year, she'll swing back to the center.

Now, of course, that's still better than what Peter King or George Pataki bring to the table.

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How can someone whose only been elected since '06
be a "career politician"?  Challenge her liberal bonafides if you want, but it's awfully double-sided to be calling her a career politician when she's been in the game for only a short time and most of the other folks considered for the Senate appointment are career politicos.

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And you know this how?
She could just as easily have been tailoring her positions for NY-20. Proof will be in the pudding come 2011.

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Exactly
She will be facing many more elections after 2010 (assuming she wins) so she can't just veer wildly back to the center if she has any intention of having a long-term career in New York.

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