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MA-Sen: What's Next

by: Crisitunity

Thu Aug 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM EDT


Having had some time to let the passing of Ted Kennedy sink in, speculation inevitably turns to who succeeds him (and when). There hasn't been an open Senate seat in Massachusetts since 1984, so there's a backlog of long-time Representatives with huge bank accounts all trying to crash the door at the same time... and with a mid-term special election meaning no one would have to give up a safe seat to run, expect a lot of people running.

While Massachusetts currently has a system where there is no gubernatorial appointment but rather a mid-term special election (a result of a legislative change passed in 2004 to prevent Mitt Romney from appointing a Republican successor to John Kerry), there is now a push to update the law to a system more like what is done in Texas: a short-term appointment until the special election can be held. This was suggested by Kennedy himself in a letter released a week prior to his death (which met some initial resistance last week), but with Democrats painfully aware that Kennedy's absence leaves Senate Democrats at 59 and at least one vote short on a health care reform cloture vote, momentum is building for a quick post-Labor Day vote that would change the law again to allow for the short-term appointment. Governor Deval Patrick said on MSNBC that he would sign such a bill, and state House Speaker Robert DeLeo has given it his tacit approval.

Roll Call suggests that, if this passes, the short-term appointee is unlikely to be someone who would contest the special election. They point to former Governor (and Presidential candidate) Michael Dukakis as a likely appointee; he has already given assurances that he will not run in the special.

The next question is: what's the timetable on the special election? It doesn't seem like any changes to the law regarding interim appointment will involve changes to the special election timetable. The Hill calculates:

The special election must be held between 145 and 160 days after the vacancy occurs. Since Kennedy died late Tuesday, that puts the window between Jan. 17 and Feb. 1. Holding the race on a Tuesday, a traditional Election Day, would mean Jan. 18, Jan. 25 or Feb. 1.

So who runs, among the Democrats, in the special? Speculation centers on as many as five of the state's ten Democratic House members, and two former House members as well.

Rep.DistrictAgeCoH
Ed MarkeyMA-0763$2.89 mil
Richard NealMA-0260$2.5 mil
Stephen LynchMA-0954$1.39 mil
John TierneyMA-0657$1.29 mil
Michael CapuanoMA-0857$1.2 mil
Martin Meehanwas MA-0552$4.8 mil
Joe Kennedy IIwas MA-0856$1.7 mil

One high-profile House member who has already indicated that he won't run is Barney Frank. The 69-year-old Frank is at the pinnacle of his power as House Financial Services Chair. Ed Markey is a something of a question mark; he's also one of the most powerful House members, as a 33-year veteran and chair of the Energy and Environment Subcommittee of the Energy and Commerce Committee, making it less likely he'd be willing to give up his gavel... but there's also no question he's been stockpiling money for this very contingency for many years.

The remaining members of the House delegation are 72-year-old John Olver (considered a likely retiree soon), 68-year-old Bill Delahunt, 63-year-old Niki Tsongas (who just got to the House), and 49-year-old Jim McGovern. McGovern, based in Worcester's MA-03, is sitting only only $536K, which apparently isn't enough for prognosticators to consider him a likely candidate.

Former Reps Meehan and Kennedy are also question marks. Meehan has by far the most money of anyone, and has been sitting on it in miserly fashion since leaving the House to become chancellor of UMass-Lowell. Although he's reportedly happily ensconced in his new job, his hunger for a Senate seat while still in the House was palpable, and the fact that he's still hoarding his cash is a red flag. Kennedy has a huge intangible advantage, perhaps a field-clearing one, in that, well, he's a Kennedy, and there's understandable sentiment about keeping at least one Kennedy in the Senate. Kennedy, however, has been out of office for a while, and a subsequent ugly divorce and controversy of Venezuelan oil deals may cast a bit of a shadow over him. (Plus, more generally, the Kennedy name may not have the iconic power it used to, as seen in the Caroline Kennedy and Chris Kennedy flameouts this year, as well as the 2002 loss of Kathleen Kennedy Townsend.)

There are two other non-House, female candidates who could make the race. One is Kennedy's widow, Vicki Kennedy, who hasn't held office but could be a sentimental favorite; however, indications are that she isn't interested in running (although she could be another possible short-term appointee). The other is AG Martha Coakley, who has had her eye on the Senate seat for some time, polling the race several times. While she doesn't have a big stash of federal dollars like the other candidates (she has only $144K), she would bring something of a demographic advantage to the race by being the only woman, as well as the only statewide official. Coakley has been quick to hit cable TV in the last couple days.

There must be some Republicans to run, right? What passes for GOP top talent in the Bay State (Christy Mihos, Charlie Baker) is already looking at the Governor's race, where they've been historically more successful and where Patrick is unpopular. That leaves former Lt. Gov. (and 2006 gubernatorial loser) Kerry Healey, former US Attorney Michael Sullivan, former Ambassador Chris Egan, state Senator Scott Brown, former Justice Dept. official Wayne Budd, and businessman David Sukoff as GOPers who've been mentioned. Former Bush CoS Andy Card, and Jim Ogonowski, who ran well in the MA-05 special election, are reportedly not interested.

There's one other name being floated: former Governor Mitt Romney. To most observers, that's comical, considering that Romney a) is busy running for President, and won't want to get involved in the relatively small ball time-suck of the Senate, and b) didn't run for re-election as Massachusetts Governor because he would have had his ass handed to him, after veering to the right in order to prep for his Prez run and repeatedly dissing his own state while doing so. US News's delusional Peter Roff still sounds hopeful, saying that the fact that being in the Senate would help Romney prove his conservative bona fides -- but offering no evidence for Romney's electability in Massachusetts other than his 100% name ID.

Meanwhile, there's one other entirely separate game of musical chairs: Senate committee assignments. Kennedy was chair of Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (or HELP), one of the two key Senate committees on health care reform. The acting chair of HELP while Kennedy was out has been Chris Dodd, who has been doing double-duty while also chairing Banking. The ball's basically in Dodd's court now: whether he wants to switch full-time to HELP, or go back to Banking. This actually impacts his re-election strategy, interestingly: does he go to HELP, and focus on building accomplishments there in order to distract from lingering dissatisfaction (not necessarily deserved, but either way, the perception is there, especially regarding the AIG bonuses) from his tenure at Banking? Or does he go back to Banking in order to show his constituents he's focused on cleaning up the mess there? (State Sen. Sam Caligiuri, one of his minor GOP contenders, is already jumping on Dodd over possibly moving to HELP.)

So, if Dodd moves to HELP, that means Tim Johnson of South Dakota takes over Banking. However, the moderate Johnson is still slowed by his brain hemmorhage from several years past, and has been a low-key participant since then; he might defer to the 3rd in line, the much more liberal Jack Reed of Rhode Island, which would certainly improve our chances of robust re-regulation of Wall Street in the coming year.

On the other hand, if Dodd stays at Banking, Tom Harkin is 2nd in line at HELP. While Harkin certainly has had a stake in such issues, he may prefer to remain as chair of Agriculture, the defining issue in his state of Iowa. Either way, we'd then likely get the only female committee chair: if Harkin stays at Agriculture, 3rd in line to chair HELP would be Barbara Mikulski. If Harkin moves to HELP, the Ag order then goes Patrick Leahy (chair of Judiciary), Kent Conrad (chair of Budget), and Max Baucus (chair of Finance). It's hard to see any of them wanting to give up those gavels, so next in line to lead Agriculture would be Arkansas's Blanche Lincoln -- which might give her something valuable to honk her horn about as she faces a potentially difficult re-election.

UPDATE (James L.): This shouldn't be considered a surprise to anyone with their head properly screwed on, but Mittens says that he won't run for Teddy's seat.

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Election Date
FWIW I would guess the General Election will be as early as possible. IIRC state law requires the primary be 6 weeks before the general, A late Jan general would put the primary in the middle of the Christmas/ New Years Holiday season.

"Where free Unions and collective bargaining is forbidden, freedom is lost." - Ronald Reagan

Having Johnson heading up Finance
would not be such a good thing IMO.

Dodd -> HELP
I bet Dodd will go to HELP.  Which would he rather be identified with in Connecticut right now: Health care reform, or banking?  Pretty clearly health care reform.  And this re-election race is no easy thing.

On the other hand, does he lose a lot of campaign money if he gives up the Banking gavel?


There's arguements either way on what's best for Dodd's re-election chances
in the article, either switching to HELP, or staying at Finance.
I'm hoping he stays, because:
1. it would keep the Finance gavel out of Tim Johnson's hands (for at least the next year and a half anyways), and
2. Either Harkin or Mikulski would get the HELP committee chairmanship. And either would be fine.

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I hope he stays
so that it gives Milkulski a better shot at a gavel, and Lincoln for that matter.  (Women advancing in politics is a bit of a guiding factor in my political desires.)

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I want Mikulski to replace Reid as majority leader,
Reid has been awful lately and Mikulski would never that the same bs from the GOP that Reid puts up with.

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Too old
It'll be Schumer.

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Actually it would probably be Durbin
Since he is the Majority Whip.

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Whose from Illinois
Along with the president. Not likely to happen  

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That and
the fact that Durbin is more a behind-the-scenes guy whereas Schumer loves the spotlight and is the chief architect of the current Democratic majority. 14 Democratic senators won R-held seats thanks to his fundraising and recruiting.  

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Mittens isn't stupid, he knows he be embarrassed
by any Dem.

No shit
I just want whatever breed of ganja Peter Roff was toking last night.

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Roff actually said Mittens would likely win.
Whatever he was smoking, PASS THAT SHIT!!

34, WM, Democrat, FL-11

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(***inhales***) Not only that, but Roff continues on that then
Romney could actually use the Senate seat to lock up the GOP nomination [for president} in 2012.  

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Methinks
There must be a place somewhere for him at National Review. Sounds like he would fit right in at The Corner!

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Feh, he already works for US News.
There's very little difference between the two these days.  

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Most Likely
Martha Coakley or Ed Markey will get that senate seat.  

I'm skeptical
about Markey

as he's the most senior congressman from New England
I don't think he'd want to get  it all up to be a junior senator

as for the Update: it makes Mitt had his chance running for this seat 15 years ago, unless he wants to get rejected by voters twice he had better stay put

Male 21 Dem Ca's 1st  


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Jim McGovern Is Only 49
His birthday is in November 1959. You must have mixed up the numbers.

Typo - it's Vicki, not Vicky Kennedy
n/t

Meehan can go screw
He sat on nearly $5M when some of that cash could have really been useful for a handful of excellent Dem house candidates in 2008.  Miserly and not a team player is how I saw it.

The closer to Boston they are,
the more likely they are to get the seat.

I'd rule out Markey because he's unlikely to give up being #6 in the House to be #100 in the Senate, below even Franken. (After all, he's got his seat for life, and if he hangs in there for another decade or so he could easily become Speaker, assuming Dems have the House then.)

I'd rule out Neal because he's from Springfield, which gets no say in Massachusetts politics.

It'll be one of the others, or Coakley. The only certain thing is that it's probably going to get very ugly very fast once everyone gets in, unless one candidate can somehow buy the others off early. I'd put my money on Coakley because she's an outsider and has proven that she can break heads, but I'll probably be glad I'm not wagering real money.  


Woudn't Neal have Gillibrand type advantages?
Gillibrand is from Upstate NY, Neal is from outside of Boston, co-opting any R chances for the seat?

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Which raises the stupid question
What Republican chances? In New York, a Republican had held one of the two senate seats within the last decade or so. The Republicans haven't held either seat in 30 years, and the Republican bench was a lot better way back when.

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And:
I will throw my $.02 worth on this matter.

First off, I don't think in all honesty that Ed Markey would run for the Senate seat. He's too high in seniority in the House, and he's working on important climate change legislation these days. Same with Barney Frank and financial bills.

I'd definitely consider Martha Coakley one of the front-runners, and likely Steve Lynch of the 9th district. Lynch will be strong because he will appeal to blue-collar workers and socially conservative folks.

As for Jim McGovern, he probably won't run. Why? He's one of the highest-ranking members of the Rules Committee, and he'll probably get that chairmanship if/when the aging Louise Slaughter retires.


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But Rs do get elected statewide
If I'm understanding right, Patrick is the first R gov since Dukakis - i.e. they had a 16 year reign in the MA Gov mansion. So with the right candidate (perhaps some self-financed tycoon), they can't be discounted.

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D'oh! I meant
Patrick is the first D gov sine Dukakis - R's had the Gov mansion between '91-07, a 16 year reign.

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Not quite.
When Romney left, he took the party with him. People were so pissed off at him for his out of state Mass-bashing that the GOP base fractured. A lot went over to Patrick or Mihos, and others moved to New Hampshire. They've got a lot of work to do to rebuild the myth that a GOP governor can't do a lot of damage on his own.  

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Nate Silver suggests Weld
per http://www.fivethirtyeight.com...

he suggests that Weld would be competitive in a Senate race,

though he confirms the basics of your analysis if just about "anyone else" were to run for the Rs.


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Maybe,
but that's only if Weld can legally run. He was about to run for Governor of NY just a couple of years ago, and that doesn't look good, especially after what Romney tried to pull.  

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The Same Argument
Could be made against Patrick Kennedy, Ted's son. He's a House member from Rhode Island, and althought RI and MA are awfully close together, they're still different states. I understand MA has some lax residential laws regarding their lawmakers, so Patrick can claim Hyannis Port as his 'residence' until he gets more permanent lodgings in Boston (unless he already has residence in Boston).

I bring this up because in the crop of candidates with the last name Kennedy, his name often comes up.


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An out of stater
going through rehab, me thinks even the Kennedy name cant salvage that.

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Don't Remind Me
I still recall him crashing his car into the Capital at 4 am.

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That,
and Massachusetts has a very dim view of Rhode Island elected officials in general. Ask any Bostonian what the one state with a government more screwed up than their own is, and most will immediately say RI - at least most that I've known. Being part of a MA dynasty like the Kennedys and only being able to find office in RI is seen as highly weak.

Patrick Kennedy is not an option.  


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Not really.
Unlike in NY, there aren't any important population centers west of Worcester that the Boston establishment (which also represents 2/3s of the population) has to pay attention to. Western MA hasn't had significant political power since before it was colonized by Europeans, if then.  

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Moreover
Western Massachussets is one of the more liberal parts of the state. It's exburban Boston and Bill Delahunt's district where Republicans had been claiming their margins of victory prior to Patrick. Check out this really cool map and analysis detailing Massachusetts political geography.

22, Democrat, AZ-01
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Cool!
It's similar to my analysis of California in the 2008 election. Later on I plan to write about how Republicans were able to eke out narrow wins and hold on to statewide office in California even as they started slipping from power after the "Democratic Revolution" in the state in 1958, where the Democrats took control of the state legislature and House delegation and have more or less held on to it since, and have also held on to at least one U.S. Senate seat as well as at least one statewide office (though that goes back to 1950 with Pat Brown's election to attorney general; a position his son would take more than half a century later!)

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And
the one statewide elected official from Western MA in living memory was "acting Gov. Jane Swift", arguably the most incompetent person to run the state in its history - and for Mass, that's saying a lot.

I love how those maps don't even bother to label Western MA as a region, like it doesn't even exist (you'd think they'd at least acknowledge UMass, even if everyone else who lives there is from Connecticut and New York.) The derisive labeling of Worcester as "offramps" is pretty amusing, though. It's a nice map with a lot of interesting information and thanks for finding it, but the guy who wrote the labels is a douchebag.  


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Western Mass
is "Left Fields" and "Brink Cities" on this map. I think they don't really talk about that area because that's not really where the problem has been.
Also, I think Worcester is "Mid Mass," while the "Offramps" area is more like the parts of exburban Boston (and suburban Worcester) to the east, like Marlborough and Acton. I see your point, though.

22, Democrat, AZ-01
Peace. Love. Gabby.


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Martha Coakley looks like a smart bet...
At least one of the current MA congressmen will enter the race, maybe more than one since they don't have to give up their seat. Ed Markey and Barney Frank probably aren't giving up their House seniority. John Olver and Bill Delahunt are probably too old. Niki Tsongas hasn't even been there a full term. Stephen Lynch's conservative positions on abortion and gay marriage are two big hurdles he'd have to overcome in a statewide election. Jim McGovern apparently has no interest in leaving the House. That leaves John Tierney and Mike Capuano.

If Marty Meehan gives up his current job at UMass-Lowell, he would be a formidable candidate. AG Martha Coakley has run statewide before, has a good profile and will likely be the only woman in the race, barring the unlikely event that Vicki Kennedy runs. But I'd imagine if she (or even Joe Kennedy II) runs, the Democratic primary (and thus the election) will all be over but the shouting.  


Mikulski wouldn't be "only female chair"
Just a quick correction. If Mikulski gets HELP she wouldn't be the only female committee chair. Feinstein is at Intelligence and Boxer at Environment. There may be another, not sure. I do remember reading somewhere that Mikulski is the most senior overall Dem without a full committee gavel, however, so it would be a long overdue promotion for her.

Mary Landrieu
She is chair of the Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship

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Long Overdue?
Eh, as long as the Democrats keep picking chairs by seniority, well, being in the Senate for 22 years really isn't that long to be there without assuming a chair - especially when you are on bigger committees than Small Business, and when one of your committees is Appropriations.

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Placeholder
Dukakis obviously would make the most sense normally, but I'd bet on Vicki... some folks will think it is desirable (and even tear up) for their to be a "Kennedy" yes vote on health care.

If she expressed interest
She could have it. But will she express interest, and I have my doubts.

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From looking at it...
...Meehan is almost a definate.  Of course most of the rest of the political class in Massachusetts hates him. Which actually isn't necessarily a bad thing.

The one I'd put my money on though is Capuano.  Very politically savvy and a chamaleon who can play right, left, or center.

Someone I'd watch out for is Lynch in a crowded primary.  While heavily Democratic Massachusetts isn't quite as liberal as many assume.

If Delahunt runs that might worry me since the Cape would be the most likely area for a Republican to be able to pick up a seat from.  Course that would require the Republicans putting up a credible candidate which for them is easier said than done.

In recent years Attorney Generals such as Frank Belloti, Scott Harshbarger, and Tom Reilly have had a history of fizzling.

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Dear God, not Coakley
Martha Coakley (like Scott Harshbarger and Tom Reilly) has had her finger in the notorious Fells Acres sex abuse case for years. That case landed three innocent people in prison, one of them for eighteen years, and nobody has ever been held accountable for that debacle in any way. I like to think that's why Harshbarger and Reilly crashed and burned, but I concede that's probably wishful thinking. Either way, though, it's a precedent. Which means Coakley would be a poor candidate if the Republicans had even a candidate with a pulse. But more importantly, it means she doesn't belong anywhere near the Senate. If I lived in Mass, I'd hold my nose and vote for Romney before I'd vote for her.  

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Speaking of which:
Bill Delahunt told Chris Matthews on last night's "Hardball," in response to the latter's question about running for the Senate, that he's out. He said that he has no plans to make a six-year commitment for a Senate term, and that he is content serving in the House.

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"no plans to make a six-year commitment"
Delahunt might belong on the retirement watch list, then. Sounds like he doesn't know how much longer he wants to be kicking it around Washington.

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I agree.
Fells Acres is one of the reasons I voted for the Republican Paul Celucci against Harshbarger.

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Curt Schilling
I bet he'd be a pretty strong Republican candidate

That depends on how you'd define "strong"
If by "strong" you mean someone with a less than microscopic chance of winning, Schilling doesn't qualify in my opinion.

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