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FL-Sen, FL-Gov: Crist Still Thumping Rubio, Both Thump Meek; McCollum Edges Sink

by: James L.

Wed Aug 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM EDT


Two polls released earlier today contain more comfortable news for Florida Gov. Charlie Crist. Let's have a look at 'em.

Rasmussen Reports (8/17, likely voters, no trend lines):

Charlie Crist (R): 53
Marco Rubio (R): 31
Other: 5
Undecided: 11
(MoE: ±5%)

31% is the strongest showing yet for Rubio in any of the public polls released to date, but we're still far from the point where Crist would have to breaking a sweat.

General election numbers:

Charlie Crist (R): 48
Kendrick Meek (D): 29
Other: 10
Undecided: 13

Marco Rubio (R): 43
Kendrick Meek (D): 30
Other: 8
Undecided: 19
(MoE: ±3%)

The headline for Rasmussen's piece says that Crist is beating potential Dem candidate Corrine Brown, too, but that head-to-head data is nowhere to be found. Either Rasmussen is holding out on us, or perhaps they're making a reasonable assumption. As for the other poll...

Quinnipiac (8/12-17, registered voters, 6/2-7 in parens):

Charlie Crist (R): 55 (54)
Marco Rubio (R): 26 (23)
Undecided: 18 (21)
(MoE: ±4.6%)

Quinnipiac also tested the Democratic Senate primary, but inexplicably included Congressman Ron Klein, who passed up the race months ago, in the mix. For what it's worth, Meek leads the pack with 18%, followed by non-candidate Klein at 12%, and Brown with 9%.

And, finally, the Governor's race:

Alex Sink (D): 34 (38)
Bill McCollum (R): 38 (34)
Undecided: 25 (25)
(MoE: ±2.9%)

Sure, I'm not crazy about the trend, but I'll take these numbers. For one, with Dems taking a bit of a national hit lately, the fact that McCollum hasn't put more daylight between him and Sink is comforting. But more importantly, Sink has more room to grow: she has a 23-8 favorability rating, with 68% of voters counting themselves as not having heard enough to have an opinion on her. For McCollum, his net favorables are quite good (42-13), but that also means he's more well-known (43% don't enough enough about him). This one's gonna be a real dogfight.

Quinnipiac didn't release general election Senate numbers or Obama approvals in this release -- the latter of which I'm quite interested in seeing. Rasmussen's polling finds Obama with an ugly 42-57 approval rating in the state (with 47% strongly disapproving). I'd like to see how Quinnipiac's approval testing stacks up, at least to see just how Republican-friendly Rassmussen's sample is compared to other pollsters.

James L. :: FL-Sen, FL-Gov: Crist Still Thumping Rubio, Both Thump Meek; McCollum Edges Sink
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Still a long way to go on this one.
With regards to the Republican primary, it's going to be a long time before judgement day here and Rubio seems to have plenty of reason to keep going, not the least of which being this poll which seems to show him gaining some ground.  On our side, Meek has still got some work to do, but I think people are going to be taking a second look (and, indeed, for many Floridians, a first look) and end up being a little more impressed than they were initially.  Both the senate race and the governor's race could be affected by the looming financial crisis in Florida.  As I understand it (and I don't pretend to be an expert or the most informed person on the subject) the whole Florida budget is set for disaster and if/when it explodes next year we could see a real game changer.

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Like the budget kerfluffle
in California earlier this year that resulted in some tax increases made the bottom fall out of Arnold's approvals and along with it, any chance he had of having a shot at the Senate. Until February he still had strong approvals among conservative and Republican voters, but not anymore. (Arnold, meet Deval!)

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I don't buy Rasmussen's Florida approval ratings for Obama
Obama's national numbers have been in the low 50s, and Florida tends to be fairly close to the national average (albeit slightly Republican leaning). No way in hell Obama has a net -17 approval in Florida.

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FL
So much for gains in Florida.  I can't see us winning either race although I do really like Sink as a candidate.

29/D/Male/NY-01

I can understand why you might say that about the senate race
but the governor's race looks like a tossup to me.

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Sink is gonna pull this one out
Alex Sink is a very strong candidate and McCollum has been shown to be a weak candidate in statewide elections. Give it time and Sink will pull ahead.

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I can't imagine McCollum winning either
I say this, but McCollum may be getting some good press for being the Attorney General, so he might have a decent shot.  I hope Sink's campaign gains momentum and pulls out a victory.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

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If
Rubio manages to primary Crist, I don't see a Rubio vs. Meek contest being won being won by more than 2 points. It would turn into the 2004 senate race when Mel Martinez won by only 2 points. Sure Rubio would have sky high recognition, but primaries always have the winning person's negatives shoot through the roof. That means Rubio and the NRSC would have to begin attacking Meek very very early. The NRSC could afford it, but Rubio wouldn't be able to.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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If
Rubio does defeat Crist, how would Crist respond?  Do you think he would give a lukewarm endorsement of Rubio?

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

[ Parent ]
late primaries
Rubio would not have to go negative very very early. Might not need to at all, considering Week is not a particularly strong candidate. Think your scenario would be more likely versus Klein.

Rubio's main problem would be raising money in a short time frame after draining himself fighting Crist's wads of cash.


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"Week"
How very Freudian! :)

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That was "weak"....
Don't know what kind of keyboard you have but my W key and M key are so far apart from each other I can only presume you did that intentionally.

Meek is a very bright and tactical player, even though on paper he may not look like he can win in FL (remember a state senator called Barack Obama?). In any event, don't sell the guy short, he's sharp and should do fine.

Rubio reminds me of an overrated over-ambitious preppy pol, who will get his comeuppance when the rubber meets the road. He won't beat Crist and he knows this, he may be pushing this in anticipation of running to replace Bill Nelson in 2012.    

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Quinnipiac FL Obama approval 47-48
Wouldn't dismiss Rubio too fast.
Rubio is testing higher than his name rec, suggesting room to grow and significant discontent within the GOP.

Charlie Anticrist's approvals remain solid, though down 8 points. However, note that his 66 percent approval from GOP is not much above his overall around 60.

Crist is trapped in a box of his own construction on stimulus/spending and cap and trade. He has no foot soldiers, as the county party rebellions demonstrate, while the Tea Party and Town Halls are assembling hordes of wingers who can flock to Rubio.

And Crist is sitting on a time bomb with the state budget. Taking the stimulus money just kicked the can down the road a year. Unless he resigns (and opens up a whole new line of attack for being a quitter), he's going to face a financial meltdown for the election year budget. If he raises taxes and fees, that will be the match that sets his primary electorate on fire.

If he doesn't, the state defaults or shuts down most services and he looks incompetent. Either way, he is screwed.



Crist, I-FL?
Could he win as an independent in such a case?

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Good Question
Doubt it. Would simply lower the bar for Meek.

Dealing with 11 percent unemployment and has not done a long-term fix to massive budget shortfall. About the only thing that could save him is Stimulus II allowing another budget fix and a bounceback in housing if the bipartisan Committee to Reinflate the Bubble succeeds. Tourism revenues are not coming back until national economy is in full recovery.

I expect we will shortly see a series of polls showing Crist approvals down across the board.  


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I want to know where Eric Erickson and his retarded army are...
I mean come on, if progressives could take out people in our primaries like Lieberman and soon to be unemployed specter, I would hope that Redstate tards could AT LEAST remove Crist from higher office, But even if Crist isn't nominated, it still looks like Meek would have a long way to go.

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