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NJ-Gov: Christie's Successor Faces Ethics Probe Over Remarks Supportive of Christie

by: James L.

Tue Aug 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM EDT


The week from hell continues for Chris Christie. From the Associated Press:

The top federal prosecutor in New Jersey is facing an internal ethics investigation over public comments that may have helped his ex-boss' campaign for governor, officials told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

The probe marks a particularly embarrassing turn for federal authorities charged with weeding out corruption in scandal-scarred New Jersey: An internal affairs investigation has been launched into their handling of a major corruption case just days after they filed charges in the case.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the probe, told the AP the Justice Department was examining whether acting U.S. Attorney Ralph Marra made inappropriate public comments that boosted Republican Chris Christie's political challenge to incumbent Democratic Gov. Jon Corzine. Before running for office, Christie was the US Attorney for New Jersey, and Marra was his top deputy.

So, let's recap: First, new details emerged on Karl Rove orchestrating Christie's candidacy while he was still a US Attorney, which prompted CREW to file a complaint with the Office of the Special Counsel to see if Christie violated the Hatch Act. Next, it's revealed that Christie failed to disclose a $46,000 loan to his top deputy as required by federal and state ethics regulations. Then, it's revealed that he also failed to report the loan income on his tax returns. The final kick in the pants -- and a painful one -- is Christie's successor being under investigation for improperly involving himself in the political sphere in support of his former boss.

The Jon Corzine campaign must be ecstatic right now.

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I now remember the best thing about Corzine
He is so rich from Goldman-Sachs he never needed to get involved in NJ corruption!

He is so rich from Goldman Sachs he never needed to get involved in petty corruption.
Corrected.

I like Corzine, but I hated investment banking before it was cool.    

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08


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Petty
You know I almost used that very word. So true.

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What are the major newspapers ans TV media in NJ?
Please characterize their political leanings.

Please leave out the NY and Philly.


I'm waiting to see the new Corzine ad
that will undoubtedly come out of this.  

Muchado about nothing
It's August. People will have forgotten about this by November. They won't have forgotten Corzine's terrible record. But keep taking these PR "victories."

Do you realize how much press this is getting beyond sites like this? None. It's NOT important.


Forgotten when Corzine spends millions
Reminding people in ads?

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Of What?
Reminding them of what?

That he talked to Karl Rove. WOW! Not the boogeyman Karl Rove!

That he helped a friend. OMG what an evil person!

That his predecessor thought Christie was great at his job. OH NOES!

You people are desperate.


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Wow
If you think those articles are going to cause people to vote for Corzine instead of Christie, you clearly have no idea how unpopular Corzine is. No idea at all.

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Dude
You first said it would be forgotten and a PR victory hence something bad. Then that it was getting no play. I proved you wrong in five seconds. Quit spinning.

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Quit spinning
conspiracy said it. This is an election race analysis site, not a place where propaganda pushed by anyone will affect opinions of candidates or election outcomes. Republicans are welcome here, as Kyle and GOPVOTER know. Those two provide a welcome perspective on real questions of the qualities and political situations of candidates and races. I believe you are able to do likewise, and if you ask me right now, I still think it's more likely than not that Corzine will lose. All I, as a regular user like you, would ask you to do is dial back the rhetoric. I hope you do that, stay, and give us an important reality check on Democratic hopes in New Jersey.

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Your attitude is not welcome here
Lines like this:

You people are desperate.

Are not appropriate for this site, nor is your general pattern in the last couple of NJ threads, for a variety of reasons. This is a Democratic site. Republicans may participate here (in fact, a couple do regularly), but they're going to be held to a different standard. That's just how things are here.

If you want to discuss horserace issues bloodlessly, then you can stay. But if that doesn't suit you - if you prefer to be a partisan advocate - then I'd suggest you find someplace else to spend your time.


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Okay
I don't understand the different standards, but it's your site, so your rules. :)

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tip of the iceberg
Going to be fun to have the IRS and local government combing through Christie's financials while local law enforcement (and local gossip rags) are looking into his "relationship" with his former employee (and current mole in the US atty's office).

Pass the popcorn.


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Katz
Look up the name Carla Katz.

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Do I assume correctly that you are a Republican?


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Clearly so
But who is Carla Katz? Brandon, or anyone else, why not post about her (or link to a preexisting comment on her) instead of asking us to Google?

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Here you go..check out the link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

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Looks bad
Thanks, Tarheeman. That looks very bad. Do you think Christie could get any traction with it, such that both candidates are mudslinging against each other, cancelling it all out and returning the election to the result that I'd expect with no ethical issues (a Christie win), albeit with perhaps a somewhat reduced turnout, due to voters' disgust with mudslinging?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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Forrester tried to make Katz an issue in 2005 IIRC.
"If a man can't be loyal to his wife, how can you expect him to be loyal to his constituents?"

If it didn't work out too well when the affair was fresh in everyone's minds, then it is very unlikely it will be a big deal 4+ years removed.

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I imagine he could
I just think the electorate might be turned off with Christie trying to defend his ethical lapses by mentioning Corzine's own problems.  Christie was supposed to clean up Trenton, but instead he might come off more as a status quo politician.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04

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It's n=New Jersey
Nobody gives a crap about Corzine's personal life.  

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So
will they care about Christie's ethical problems?

"I'm not a member of any organized political party, I'm a Democrat!"
--  Will Rogers  


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And it makes in onto NJN local news
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

What news will tomorrow bring regarding Christie's ever dying gubernatorial hopes, stay tuned...


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I read the CREW letter
I read the article and document on CREW which has gone after unethical democrats and republicans. The allegations made in the article and the document seem pretty serious. Just remember, Tom Delay was a powerful congressman from the red state of Texas and now he is on dancing with the stars as a result of CREW. I suggest everyone read the facts in both the article and document and then decide whether this race is lean R or tossup.

article
http://www.citizensforethics.o...

document
http://www.citizensforethics.o...


This might be the best "come from ahead" loss for the GOP since George Allen-2006
I find it amusing to listen to the far right explain that Christie was merely "helping a friend".  This, my friends, is nothing more than arrogance.  Christie had a major ethical lapse, and he's probably lost his chance for the Trenton governor's mansion as a result.

Maybe this chick and her husband can move in with the Christies.  

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


Explain
How is this unethical? As an American citizen, I can loan my money to whoever I want to, and Chris Christie can do the same.

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You are partially right
You are right that loaning $46,000 to a friend is not unethical but there are issues. First, it goes against Christie's law and order campaign when he claims to be squeaky clean and that everyone else should be and then doesn't report or pay taxes on the interest on the loan. (actually that is tax evasion) However, in addition to this I find this strange. I dont care how good friends I am with someone, Im not gonna just loan them $46,000 especially by taking out a second mortgage and putting my house at risk if they dont pay back. GET REAL, this isn't about being nice something else is going on here for sure and while I dont know what it is, I do think its not pretty due to Christie being so reluctant to talk about it. There is no way to spin this, no one just loans someone 46,000 just to be nice (unless they are family).  I am sure there is more to come from this.

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Giving the loan itself is not a problem.
Failing to report it is.

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Not following the rules and law is an ethical lapse.
Christie failed to disclose a $46,000 loan to his top deputy as required by federal and state ethics regulations.  That is an ethics violation.  When you are required to report something, but either you knowingly or unintentionally failed to report it, that's an ethics violation.

The other potential ethics violation is a potential conflict of interest.  In the Christie debacle, he supervises the lady who he made the loan to.  If, for some reason, information comes to his attention that the lady had, in fact, performed her professional duties in a sub-par manner, or may have done an act that requires immediate termination, a reasonable third party could conclude that Christie would lack the objectivity to properly "do the right thing" and reprimand/fire her (general note: unemployed people have trouble paying off debt). Also, if the lady was promoted after Christie had left office (this has been mentioned), it could make a reasonable third party to wonder if Christie didn't influence the promotion so the lady could pay him back in a prompt manner.


40, male, Democrat, NC-04


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Did Christie hire her originally
Did Christie hire this lady originally, thus maybe he hires only his friends or people who do him favors, like those who he gives no bid contracts to. I remember another governor who hired all her friends. SARAH PALIN A governor not even able to serve out a full term.

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I don't know
But you know, as someone else has mentioned, Christie and the lady were such good friends, I wouldn't put it past him to be the hiring person.  I just have no direct knowledge.

My beautiful wife of 14 years just asked me if I know about this "Christie fellow".  I said "yeah honey, I think I heard something about a loan".  My wife replies "you don't really believe that the guy gave her a $46,000 loan just because she was a desparate friend?...."  I won't repeat the rest of what my wife said because it might not be suitable for SSP.

40, male, Democrat, NC-04


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I think we can imagine
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