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SSP Daily Digest: 8/12

by: Crisitunity

Wed Aug 12, 2009 at 2:20 PM EDT


AR-Sen (pdf): Here is a very weird set of numbers out of Arkansas, courtesy of a poll from somebody called Talk Business Quarterly. Blanche Lincoln has a 49% job approval rating, with 40% disapproval -- no surprises, about what I'd expect. But on the re-elect question, the results are 27/60! (There's some polling sleight of hand going on here, though; the question is phrased "would you vote to re-elect Blanche Lincoln as your U.S. Senator no matter who ran against her?" Well, I dunno... is Jesus going to run against her?) Also, in Arkansas, Republican wealthy guy/gaffe-prone crackpot Curtis Coleman has apparently gotten his shots and visa and can now go safely campaign in southeast Arkansas, as he officially launched his campaign today.

CT-Sen: Chris Dodd underwent successful surgery for prostate cancer yesterday and is resting comfortably. He'll be back to full activity in a few weeks, probably just in time for the end of recess.

IA-Sen: Democrats nailed down a candidate to go against Chuck Grassley, although he'll be hard-pressed to make a dent in the well-funded and inexplicably well-liked Grassley. Tom Fiegen, a former state Senator and bankruptcy attorney, will announce his candidacy on Friday. Another Dem, Iowa Democratic Veterans Caucus chair Bob Krause, is already exploring the race.

NV-Sen: Here's a telling little tidbit from an interview with Rep. Dean Heller, suggesting that he may have just as much of a non-aggression pact with Harry Reid as does John Ensign (or else he just lives in perpetual fear of Reid). When asked if it was best for Nevada if Reid were defeated, Heller's response was a 14-second pause, followed by "Um. My position is that I'm going to support the Republican candidate. If we have a viable Republican candidate, that is going to be my position. So I think that speaks for itself."

NH-Sen: Kelly Ayotte made her public debut yesterday (although she maintains she's not a candidate yet, despite having filed her candidacy papers), and shed a little more light on her hitherto-unknown positions on, well, everything. She seems to be running on mostly a law-and-order image, but she did reveal that she's anti-abortion rights and anti-gay marriage.

NY-Sen-B: With Carolyn Maloney now out of the picture, Bronx-based Rep. Eliot Engel endorsed Kirsten Gillibrand today for re-election. That brings to 12 (out of 26) Dem members of the New York House delegation who've endorsed her.

HI-Gov: Rep. Neil Abercrombie, who's running for Hawaii governor, ran into a sticky wicket: he won't be able to transfer the $900K in his federal fund to his state fund, according to Hawaii's Campaign Spending Commission. This puts him behind, in the fundraising game, both Republican candidate Lt. Gov. Duke Aiona and possible Dem primary opponent Honolulu mayor Mufi Hannemann, although he's well-connected and should be able to catch up with some effort.

NJ-Gov: In a revelation that should surprise no one, it turns out that Karl Rove discussed with Chris Christie the possibility of running for New Jersey Governor while Christie was serving in the ostensibly non-partisan position of U.S. Attorney.

SC-Gov: Democrats may be sensing an opening in the South Carolina governor's race after l'affaire Sanford, as yet another Dem jumped into the scrum: Dwight Drake, an attorney and lobbyist who hasn't been elected before but is a prominent behind-the-scenes Democrat in Columbia.

UT-Gov: Gary Herbert was sworn in as Utah's Governor yesterday, replacing new Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman. Although Herbert is universally viewed as conservative, he rankled some conservatives by throwing a bone to the state party's moderate wing by picking state Sen. Greg Bell to be Lt. Governor. He now has nine months to prepare for the GOP nominating convention for the 2010 special election, where possible candidates he may face include state Senators John Valentine and Steve Urquhart, state House speaker David Clark, and law professor Kirk Jowers. With Rep. Jim Matheson declining a run, the Dems' next best bet is Salt Lake County mayor Peter Corroon.

VA-Gov: Rasmussen takes its monthly look at the Virginia Governor's race. Republican Bob McDonnell leads Democrat Creigh Deeds, 49-41, when leaners are pushed; the 8-point gap mirrors the R2K poll from last week, but is a drop from the 3-point gap in the July Rasmussen poll. Voters still like both of them; McDonnell's favorables are 53/30, while Deeds' are 48/39.

GA-02: Rep. Sanford Bishop has an honest-to-gosh state Rep. opposing him this time, instead of the usual token Republican opposition: Mike Keown. Bishop should face little difficulty in this black-majority district he's held since 1992, though. (H/t TheUnknown285.)

NY-01: Speaking of Bishops, Rep. Tim Bishop also drew a bigger challenger than he's used to, in the form of wealthy businessman Randy Altschuler, whom the NRCC had been trying to lure into the race. It remains to be seen if Altschuler, who's never run for office before, has any political chops; the NRCC may have been loudly touting him more for his fundraising abilities, as he was a big McCain bundler and can open up his own wallet as well if need be. At any rate, it at least puts this D+0 district onto the map for 2010.

NY-St. Sen.: It's amazing what being in the majority can do for you: New York State Senate Democrats are now way in the lead in the fundraising, compared with the once-dominant Republicans. Dems have raised $6.9 million so far this year, compared with $2.5 million for the GOP, driven largely by shifts by unions who previously felt the need to play ball with the Republicans in order to avoid getting shut out of the discussion. The GOP still retains a cash-on-hand edge, though.

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GA-02
I believe the 2nd is a white majority district and Bishop is the only black representative from a white district in the South (the others in the country off the top of my head being Gwen Moore, Andre Carson and Emanuel Cleaver).

It's also a D+1 district, so it may be closer than you give it credit for.


Your correct!
51.4% White, 44.8% Black, 0.6% Asian, 3.5% Hispanic, 0.3% Native American, 0.1% other
and it is also D+1

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Actully after mid-decade redistricting it's evenly divided racially
47.5% black and white.  

21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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47,7/47,5
I'm look at my 2008 version as well and it's 47.7% white, 47.5% black.

Regardless, Bishop is safe. Nothing to see here, move along :)


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I'm not exactly sure
where your numbers are from (well, clearly they're from Wikipedia's page on the 2nd district, but I don't know where they got them from), but I'd guess they're from the pre-2006-reapportionment version of the district.

The 2007 numbers for the district's current configuration show an African-American plurality: 48.3% black, 46.6% white.


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My numbers are from the 2008 Almanac of American Politics


21, male, CA-15 (home and voting there), LA-2 (college)



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Barbara Lee in CA-9
Her Oakland-Berkeley district is extremely Liberal, but only 26 % Black.  

There are some Texas districts that only have Black Pluralities, but Black representatives, such as Sheila Jackson-Lee in TX-18 and Eddie Johnson in TX-30, both of which are just over 40% black.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


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The same thing with some Midwest reps
The districts of Gwen Moore, Keith Ellison and Andre Carson are 33, 13, and 29 percent African-American respectively.

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Black representatives in districts w/black pop. less than 40%
Some are:
CA-33 (Watson): 30%. Latinos 35%
CA-34 (Waters): 34%. Latinos 47%
CA-37 (Richardson): 25%. Latinos 43%
NY-15 (Rangel): 31%. Latinos 48%

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I did a whole diary
on this topic a year ago. This was based on 2006 census estimates, so there may be a few changes (most notably, GA-02, as we're already talking about -- in its post-2006 version, it's changed from a narrow white plurality according to the 2000 count (which I had to use last year because there was no 2006 estimate according to the new district lines) to a narrow black plurality in the 2007 estimate).

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Thanks for that
I remember your diary now, but didn't when I wrote my comment. My greater point was that (at least to me) your description of the GA-02 sounds like a VRA district, which it's not, and is certainly not as democratic as any other "black" district in the state.

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The RGA has an ad up in NJ
attacking Corzine on the environment. Analysis: Corzine is bringing the base home.  

Actually
There was a poll out last week showing Cristie getting pretty few Democratic votes. His leads are because of Indies.

If anything I think this shows the opposite, Cristie going to the offensive against Corzine with even his own party's voters.

A cat can have kittens in an oven but that doesn't make them biscuits.


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Nah, the point of a negative ad like this
is to depress your opponent's vote. Corzine has been running heavy with his Obama rally ad, and the recent polls have shown him consolidating the Democratic vote.

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I've come to the conclusion
that whether or not Corzine gets re-elected will hinge upon how well Chris Daggett does.

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It's possible
But I don't think Daggett is going to get many votes, frankly. As far as I know, he has no TV presence. He's just another guy on the ballot.  

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Currently
Daggett has been polling between around 7 or 8 percent and he is going to be on tv during the debates. He has also raised A LOT of money for and independent candidate.

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Not only will Daggett be in the debates...
...He'll also advertising in upcoming months. The only reason Corzine and Christie can advertise so much this far from the election is because they have massive party organizations spending millions on ads on their behalf. Daggett, as an independent, can't advertise that much, but he certainly can advertise with the money he's got (and thanks to matching funds, that's quite a lot compared to other independents).

In fact, Daggett just hired the incomparable Bill Hillsman to run his media campaign. This should be interesting.  


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I agree
Actually feeling much better about Corzine the last week or so. The path to an unlikely victory is becoming clear  - indies split with Christie and Daggett (people rather than holding their nose for Christie voting for Daggett instead to register their disapproval of the governor), Corzine winning on the back of getting the Dem majority in the state to come home and turn out by linking himself to Obama and linking Christie to Bush and Rove. Doesn't look so unlikely anymore.

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thats it in a nutshell
there are 3 reasons Corzine will win...

1.  Christie will be nailed to the wall as the Rovian Bushie that he is by Corzine and whatever third party spending there is.  

2.  The Democratic base is much bigger than the Republican base and obviously, that means more votes that will naturally run to the Democrat.  

3.  Daggett, voters may not like what Corzine is doing but they will like what Christie does even less.  If Daggett gets anywhere near or more than 5%, Christie can't win.  

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Wouldn't quite say "will win"
But there is a path.

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That's possible in theory.
However, I think Daggett will also eat away at Corzine's numbers, just as he already is eating away at Christie's. Yes, I suspect a lot of Christie's support has been coming from anti-Corzine votes, and that will change. But keep in mind that some only support Corzine because they despise Christie (a true sleazebag) more. I'd expect to see some of those votes drift to Daggett when they realize that there's a third choice on the ballot. Of course that's theoretical, so who knows for sure.  

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Daggett won't win
In a "good government" state (i.e. Minnesota, Wisconsin), given how low regard Corzine is held, and how low regard Christie will be held at the end of the campaign, Daggett might have had a real shot.  

But the Party machines are too strong in New Jersey.


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I know that all too well...
But even though Daggett almost certainly won't win, I think he will get a pretty sizeable percentage of the vote.  

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Twitter wars!
Corzine and Christie did some dueling over twitter yesterday. Gees is the race this nasty it goes onto twitter?

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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That Arkansas Survey
regarding Senator Lincoln is troubling. It seems like they made a typo and meant to say her reelection chances were actually 60/27. If they did make a mistake, I would not trust the accuracy of such a survey in the future.

I think it was more the wording of the question
The way they phrased the question makes it sound to me like the cousin of a push-poll -- it's like saying "Is there any possible, concievable, potential chance, however small, that you might not vote for her" -- and then concluding that only 25% of the state wants her re-elected.

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I imagine that Huckabee
is the "possible" candidate that makes most people say no, given that he's still very popular in Arkansas.  Thankfully for us, he's not shown the minutest interest in running.

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2012
Yeah, I doubt he runs for Senate. I'm hoping he runs for President in 2012 though.

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Maybe Rep. Boozman
Could make it a race. But hes from the most Republican part of the state (the NW) and seems like a no-name backbencher. But hed be better than everyone else, Im sure (besides Huck, of course. Who aint running)

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this survey is a joke
They have her approval rating 4% higher than PPP's poll but only 27% want her re-elected. I find that hard to believe. In addition, that PDF looks like it was put together by a 2-year old with the bright colors and all.

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Yeah, That Cartoon On The First Page
of Governor Beebe and Lincoln as superheroes was weird. I was like "what the hell is this?"

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Tom Jensen of Public Policy Polling...
...thinks that it's legitimate.

http://publicpolicypolling.blo...

A new Arkansas poll out this morning found just 27% of voters saying they would definitely vote to reelect Blanche Lincoln with 60% saying they would not.

I'd already been thinking there was a lot of potential for Arkansas to move into the top ten list of seats most likely to flip next year, and this just confirms it. I actually think this seat is more vulnerable for Democrats than the ones in Pennsylvania or Illinois- I'd put it in a quartet with Connecticut, Colorado, and Nevada as the ones most likely to be lost next year. I'd add North Dakota to that list also if John Hoeven runs.

Ruh-roh. I fear that he might be right. This could really be trouble.


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A poll with artwork
and bright colors cannot be taken seriously. If only 27% of people wanted to re-elect her, thatI find it hard to believe that 49% of people in the same sample would have a favorable a opinion of her.

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Maybe
People in Arkansas think of Blanche as the kind of person they would go fishing with, but they don't want as their senator. The same thing happened in NJ in one of the polls...they like Jon Corzine as a person, not as a governor.

19, Male, Independent, CA-12

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I dont get
Why they dont like her as a Senator, though. Shes a solid moderate Dem (some would even say conservative Dem) and someone who is very involved in agricultural issues (which is a big deal in AR). Sure, shes pro-choice (but so is Bill Clinton and theyve almost always loved him) but other than that and maybe a few other issues...I dont get why theyd have a prob with her.  

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Maybe so.
...or maybe not. I'd certainly like to see a legitimate pollster take a long look at this race.

I don't find it implausible that we could be in trouble in Arkansas, even with the supposed limited bench of Republicans there. I'm really wondering if we're about to see something without precedent in American politics: a huge anti-incumbent, "throw the bums out" tsunami, where incumbents in all but the most partisan districts/states are in electoral trouble.


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I don't think so
You can't beat something with nothing, and Dems have a lock on 198 seats in the House with 31 others nearly as secure. Regardless of whatever problems Dems may have, Rs are trusted even less.

Plus, I've heard all this anti-incumbent posturing before, and very little ever comes of it. While people may not be satisfied w/Congress overall, they like their respective congresscritters.

However, I do see the possible emergence of a third party, or rather, a sizable split in the GOP camp. On one side will be the pragmatists and the corporatists, while the religious fanatics and various other bottom-dwellers* will form the other side.

*I feel this is the best term for such people, even though it insults many highly beneficial aquatic animals.


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For those curious
those House stats came from CQ Politics. Here's the link:

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmsp...


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But many corporatists
Im assuming you mean tea-baggers...are also not pragmatists at least on economic issues. Sanford being a prime example.

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Jensen guessing again?
Pollsters shouldn't be commenting like this unless they have numbers to back it up. It doesn't help their reliability. At the least the appearance of it. By the way did I mention I f~#*ing hate Twitter!  

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Same problem with Zogby
Pollster or pundit: pick one.

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This is worse
At least Zogby and Rasmussen are commenting on their own polls.

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After they have the results


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I haven't forgotten 2004
Zogby is a charlatan.  

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I think the only polling I truly trust is Pew


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Same here
Besides doing excellent charity work, their polls are often the most comprehensive and useful. The rest are rather useless outside of maybe 3 months before the actual election.

I know Jensen and PPP are fairly big around here, I too am getting fed up by his attempts at punditry. When pollsters try to ape pundits, one should always be suspicious. Other examples include Frank Newport, Scott Rasmussen, and whichever Zogby is the pollster (the Arab American Association guy is cool with me).


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on the twitter thing:
when people first talked about facebook, I had an immediate thought that i'd kind fo like to do it.  with twitter i feel nothing.  i don't think i'm missing anything without it and everything i hear seems embarassing.

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not worried
Blanche Lincoln is vulnerable in the state to one person...and that person is Mike Huckabee.  

The poll asking about voting to re-elect against ANY possible candidate is completely jacked up.  

I'd prefer someone more liberal so if you asked me that then no, I wouldn't vote to re-elect her, but since she'll be the Dem nominee, then damn right I'm voting for her.  

So I'm part of the 60% that said no but she's garaunteed my vote.  I'd bet atleast half of the remaining 49% that approve of her are in the same boat.  The rest would support the "moderate" Huckabee even though they like Lincoln.  

With the Huckster out of the race, Lincoln isn't someone I'm worried about.  

Short of Huckabee entering this race, there is no potential for this race to become a top 10 race and it is not up there with any of our more vulnerable seats and Jensen is a moron if he thinks otherwise.  

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Weirdest poll question ever
27% would vote for Lincoln over everybody possible, including Bill Clinton, God and Tiger Woods.

That is a phenomenally good result, though it is only because of the stupid nature of the question.

More to the point, why even ask such an asinine question.  Poll her versus Huckabee, Hutchinson and Boozman.  Get a baseline Strong R number.  Without that, it's just a nonsense poll.


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Not Worried Bout Toomey Anymore
http://www.redstate.com/moe_la... Specter is losing to Toomey by 12


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