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SSP Daily Digest: 8/11

by: Crisitunity

Tue Aug 11, 2009 at 5:19 PM EDT


FL-Sen: As the angling for a one-and-a-half-year fill-in for Mel Martinez's Senate seat continues, there's already been one prominent "no thanks," from Jeb Bush (not that anyone would expect Charlie Crist to pick him, as there's been a lot of Crist/Bush friction and Crist wouldn't want to risk having a placeholder overshadow him). Meanwhile, a likelier pick, 70-year-old former Republican Rep. Clay Shaw (a Gold Coast moderate who served in the House from 1980 to his 2006 defeat) shot his hand up and said "pick me pick me!"

IL-Sen: Chicago Urban League president (and former Rod Blagojevich spokeperson) Cheryle Jackson made her entry into the Democratic senatorial primary field official yesterday. However, the Illinois SEIU chapter, one of the state's major unions, came out with an Alexi Giannoulias endorsement today, which, given their resources, moves him closer to having a lock on the nod. I'm wondering if they're announcing in response to Jackson... or to Roland Burris, who keeps popping his head back up.

KS-Sen: Not much change in the GOP Senate primary in Kansas since we last looked. SurveyUSA finds that Rep. Jerry Moran has a 38-32 lead over Rep. Todd Tiahrt, propelled along by a 78-13 edge in the state's western portion. Moran led by 2 in June and 4 in April.

NY-Sen-B, NY-16: It didn't register much, at a time when all speculation focused on Rep. Carolyn Maloney, but several months ago Rep. Jose Serrano said he would consider a primary run against Kirsten Gillibrand. Yesterday he made clear that he wouldn't get in the race (although he still didn't sound very enthused about Gillibrand), which means that none of her former House colleagues are left planning a primary challenge.

MN-Gov: Add one more second-tier Republican to the huge pile of prospects for the open Minnesota governor's race: state Senator Mike Jungbauer, a religious rightist from exurban Anoka County, formally kicked off his campaign. He does already have one important endorsement in his corner; he was "called by God" to run.

NJ-Gov: Today's Quinnipiac poll has a slightly better showing for Jon Corzine, in line with last week's R2K poll, though it's far from time to start talking "comeback." He cuts the lead to 9 points, 51-42, in a two-way poll of likely voters, down from 53-41 in July. More importantly, Corzine trails Chris Christie 46-40 in a three-way that includes independent Chris Daggett (who's up to 7%). Campaign Diaries observes that the centrist Daggett (a former EPA regional administrator) is probably absorbing a lot of protest votes, keeping Democrats and moderate indies who hate Corzine from going over to Christie. If Corzine wins, he'll owe Daggett a big ol' "thank you."

NY-Gov The NYT reports on growing discomfort by various downballot electeds on the prospect of having David Paterson at the top of the ticket. Both Reps. Michael McMahon and Dan Maffei worry about the effect of Paterson's low approvals spilling over into their own races. Not to worry: although it's buried deep in the story, the Times says that powerful local Dems are pushing Paterson to stand down and make way for Andrew Cuomo -- and that local bigwigs have been tugging at White House sleeves, hoping they'll find a nice appointed position for Paterson soon.

CA-10: The John Garamendi camp released an internal poll from Tulchin Research giving Garamendi a sizable edge in the upcoming special election: Garamendi is at 31, Mark DeSaulnier is at 21, Joan Buchanan is at 17, Anthony Woods is at 9, and Republican David Harmer is at 5. There's a wrinkle with this poll, though (one that didn't elude the DeSaulnier campaign): it's a poll only of Democratic and decline-to-state voters, but the primary election is an all-party primary with one pool of votes (although under California law, the top Democrat and Republican will advance, not simply the top 2). In response to our inquiry, the Tulchin crew said that polling Republicans as well just wasn't cost-effective, especially since there are six Republicans running and therefore there isn't likely to be much party-line crossing.

In other CA-10 news, Garamendi got another bit of good news: he got the endorsement of both Bill Clinton and Al Gore (he was a deputy Secretary of Interior for part of the Clinton administration). However, a SurveyUSA that only tested favorables for the CA-10 candidates didn't have good news for much of anyone: Garamendi is at 30/34, DeSaulnier is at 22/23, and Buchanan is at 16/25. Only up-and-comer Woods is in positive (if generally unknown) territory, at 14/13.

CT-04: With presumptive GOP nominee state Senate minority leader John McKinney staying out, not one but two other GOPers got in the race against Democratic freshman Rep. Jim Himes. One was the party's likely #2 choice, state Senator Dan Debicella; the other is Rob Merkle, a political novice but the wealthy owner of a financial services recruitment firm.

PA-06: Maybe journalist Doug Pike won't have the Dem primary to himself after all, now that Rep. Jim Gerlach is committed to the gubernatorial race. Bob Roggio, the little-known businessman who almost beat Gerlach in 2008, said he hasn't "ruled it out." Also, while there doesn't seem to be anything tangible, there are indications that state Sen. Andy Dinniman, the Dems' highest-profile elected official in the pivotal Chester County portion of the district, is "increasingly rumored to be seriously considering" the race.

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Regarding the NJ Q-poll
I emailed the Polling Institute and asked for crosstabs by race (to compare to R2K), but they responded that the subsamples were to small (fewer than 100).

But I must admit that the available crosstabs paint a confusing picture. I don't understand how Corzine's urban support could be so low if his suburban support is so high. Strange census definitions, perhaps? One piece of good news is that Corzine is going comparatively well with women.  


Those numbers were interesting
The conventional wisdom here in NJ is that whoever wins the suburbs wins the election in November. That's why I was more than a little surprised to see Corzine polling relatively well in the suburbs. Suburbanites not only comprise the demographic whose votes Christie is seeking, they are also the group who ought to be most upset with Corzine over his property tax shenanigans.  

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NY-23
First I read that Warren Buffet invested $230M in a Chinese electric car company.

Then I read about GM's 230 MPG pegasus VOLT

Please do me a 'favva.
Call it NY-230. May be we will get lucky.


If Paterson stepped down
who becomes governor now?  Espada, Ravitch, Smith, or someone else?  Or would that just be a promise for after the term is up?

nt
I'm referring to the post up above where it said that NY Dems were trying to get Obama to appoint Paterson to something.

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Oy, I don't even want to think about that
It should be an appointment effective at the expiration of his term.  

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I was gaming this out earlier
I think an appointment right after Paterson's term ends would look hinky. I also think it might be somewhat difficult to even create such a slot. While the Senate is slow as hell on nominations, Obama would still have to keep something open until January 2011, which means that some job would probably have to go unfilled during that time (or someone would have to be content with a short temporary appointment).

What's more, once Paterson is out of office (or more likely, once he doesn't file for re-election), he has no more cards left to play. Obama (more likely Rahm) can simply screw him, and there isn't much Paterson can do. So it would be a bad deal for him.

Meanwhile, as you observe, if Paterson takes an appointment while still governor, it's a nightmare mess as to who becomes governor. Perhaps it could work, though, if the state's highest appeals court approves of the Ravitch selection, and that it would be iron-clad that he'd become governor if Paterson stepped down.


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Good points
There is one other possibility: could the legislature pass a law allowing for a special gubernatorial election? Or would that require a constitutional amendment?

Meanwhile, Paterson maintains the "resign and let you all deal with Espada" nuclear option (assuming the CoA rejects the Ravitch nomination).


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I almost laughed out loud at that one
I'm definitely chuckling to myself at the "Espada" option. That would take David Paterson from being merely the most disliked man in New York now to sealing his name for all time.

Anyhow, I'm pretty sure changing gubernatorial succession would take a constitutional amendment. Then again, just about everyone (myself included) figured that changing lieutenant governor succession would take a constitutional amendment, but that's not looking to be the case. Of course, I had thought that because I had never looked at the issue closely enough. Now I actually think Ravitch has a good case. So maybe I'm wrong about guv succession, too.

But... even if the lege could pass such a law, no special could be instant. There would be some interregnum of at least some length, which means we'd potentially be back to Espada unless Ravitch becomes a lock.

BTW, how do you like those scumbags setting up Espada's kid with a six-figure sinecure? These people are beyond shameless. (Now I feel like some commenter on SI Live.)


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It's endemic
I'm from Philly, and my former state Senator was just convicted of similar chicanery. But he was the guy who made the state budget happen. Espada, on the other hand, just seems like a hanger-on.

Somebody needs to explain to me why states really need bicameralism post-Reynolds v. Sims.


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My opinion
            I think Paterson will come to the conclusion not to run sometime later this year or early next. I mean to leave now would not make any sense. Lord knows who we would end up with as governor. And as someone said below what's to stop the White House from saying oops we don't have a position. And besides which does Obama even have all that close of a relationship with Paterson?

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I agree
There's no sense in pulling the plug this early. If there is an arranged exit of some sort, it can wait until next spring, right before petitioning time to get on the ballot.

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What's in it for the President?
I can certainly see what the Democratic Party stands to gain from an arranged exit, but I don't see what Barack Obama has to gain from appointing Gov. Paterson to head even a relatively obscure federal agency or serve as an ambassador to even a small country. Appointing such an unpopular political figure could only reflect poorly on Obama, in my opinion.

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Gov. Paterson
Is part Jamaican (I believe 1/4th). So that might be an Ambassadorship hed accept. Its quite a step down from Gov. of NY but things arent exactly rosy for him there. He should take what he can get. And having a cushy Ambassadorship in Jamaica could be quite nice. But who knows if the post will even be open anytime soon.  

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CA-10
Anthony Woods is only getting 9%. That's too bad.

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Health Care
I konw this isn't exactly swingstate materal but... can anyone tell me how the house bill plans to lower costs without a public option?  I know there is talk of cutting waste and it seems there are some logical ways to do that.  But a public option seems to do a better job and wouldn't require raising taxes... which is worse? raising taxes or instituting a "socialized" medicine system?  Isn't that pretty much government getting involved in halth care, the difference being one way is pro waste and pro business and the other is pro individual?

News that escaped my attention, RE: GA-02, GA-HD-173
Republican State Representative Mike Keown (not be be confused with fellow Republican State Representative Mike Coan), who represents the 173rd district, which consists of large parts of Thomas and Grady Counties (including the city of Thomaston) has announced his intentions to challenge Democratic incumbent Sanford Bishop next year.  Keown makes the second announced Republican challenger for Bishop; 2008 nominee Lee Ferrell, who Bishop beat by almost 38 points, is also running.  

While seemingly a step up from Ferrell, I'm not too worried.  The Republicans dropped Democratic areas into the district from Westmoreland and Marshall's districts and Obama won it by nine.  I would keep an eye out though.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.


Safe D
Thomaston is in Upson County, which is way north of Thomas and Grady.  Upson is represented by Billy Maddox (R-HD127) and barely by Tony Sellier (R-HD136). Thomaston is right above my area, near Columbus and Macon.

I live in GA-02. Bishop is safe.

His voting record has drifted a little to the left in recent years but Bishop is great on constituent services. He's crafted relationships over the years with farmers and business leaders in the area over the years.

Remember, he used to represent a large portion of the area before the mid decade redistricting, so he was a familiar name to many voters in 2006.

His constituent services are top notch, and he and his staff are dedicated to the district. Also, his dedication to understanding agriculture when he first won election in the early 1990s is something many farmers will never forget.

There's a long Democratic tradition in many of these counties as well. Some have either never voted to send a Republican to the House or sent one for a term or two.

This seat only changes hands when Congressman Bishop retires. It might seem unlikely on paper, but it flips, easily. There's a lot of underlying racial polarization and other issues. Bishop has been able to craft a coalition of whites and blacks that few can create.


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Liquor?
Wow, just wow.

I read that link and saw "Virginia's state-run liquor stores"

Can someone give me a brief overview of this? I want to say someone near my state of Georgia does this as well, maybe Alabama.

I'm just wondering how this works, just seems odd to have state-run liquor stores. I guess the concept is just boggling my mind at the moment.


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PA too
Wine and hard liquor from state stores (the PLCB is one of the biggest bulk purchasers of booze in the world). Beer in case form from distributers, 6 packs from delis. No 12 packs anywhere.  

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OH has them too
I have no idea how the system works. All I know is that there are state liquor agencies (as we call them) in most major towns and cities.

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The state has a monopoly on spirit sales
beer and wine can be sold in grocery/wine stores, but hard liquor has to be purchased from ABC stores. So, the state has a monopoly on sales, and get to charge whatever they want, and collect all the profits (and taxes).

McDonnell's plan is idiotic because it would leave a big hole in the budget. But Gilmore won by demagoguing on the same type of issue (car tax, in that case) despite it wrecking the state's finances during his term, so I wouldn't put it past McDonnell to successfully dupe people into thinking it's a good idea.


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It worked for Arnold, too.


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I was thinking Thomasville


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SW GA
I thought this was one of the few areas of the south (especially deep south) where there is actually a tradition of racial tolerance. And so Id imagine that tolerance would still remain. But maybe all that is just a myth, i dont know.

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Don't know
I do know that Turner County is like 40% black; Obama received 40% of the vote there.  It's infamous for its only recently discontinued tradition of segregated (not sure if by custom or rule) proms.

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