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SSP Daily Digest: 7/1

by: Crisitunity

Wed Jul 01, 2009 at 2:33 PM EDT


CT-Sen: Economist/talking head Peter Schiff, who's been talking himself up for Chris Dodd's Senate seat, released an internal poll taken for him by Wilson Research Strategies. Schiff, from the Paulist wing of the party, loses the general to Dodd, 42-38; the bad news here is that, despite the AIG imbroglio falling down the memory hole, Dodd is still significantly behind ex-Rep. Rob Simmons, 47-38. One thing the poll doesn't test (or at least release publicly): results in the GOP primary.

OH-Sen: Car dealer Tom Ganley announced his candidacy for the GOP primary for the open Senate seat. (I thought he'd already announced on April 2, but I guess he needed to remind the media of his existence.) Ganley owns 38 dealerships, so he's not just your average used car dealer; he vows to self-fund significantly in his uphill fight against Rob Portman.

MN-Gov: Minnesota's Independence Party seems determined to field a major candidate in 2010's ultra-confusing gubernatorial race, and at the top of their wish list is ex-Rep. Jim Ramstad. Ramstad's name has occasionally been linked to the race as a Republican, but he may be too moderate to make it out of the activist-dominated nominating process. Ramstad's popularity would make him one to watch in the general, but he'd be laboring under the IP label, whose candidates (including moderate Dem ex-Rep. Tim Penny, who ran for Governor in 2002) have had trouble getting out of the 10-15% range this decade.

NJ-Gov: Yet another poll of the New Jersey governor's race, and while it still has Jon Corzine losing to Chris Christie, I'm going to file this in the "good news" column, as it has Corzine down by only 6, with Christie under 50%: 45-39. Interestingly, New Jerseyites seem to understand that the state has become fools gold to Republicans: despite their preferences, they still think Corzine will win, 46-38. Corzine also has a campaign appearance scheduled for July 16 with someone who's actually maintaining a 62% approval rating in New Jersey (which would translate into about 105% approval in a normal state): Barack Obama. Which, I think, is the first in-the-flesh appearance Obama has made on behalf of any candidate since getting elected.

NY-Gov: Maybe I'm feeling extra charitable today, but I'm also going to file yesterday's Marist poll in the "good news" column, because it actually shows David Paterson beating someone: he tops feeble ex-Rep. Rick Lazio 41-40 in a potential matchup. Of course, he still loses to everyone else, whether Andrew Cuomo in a primary (69-24) or Rudy Giuliani in the general (54-37, although that's also an improvement from May). In case you're wondering how a Cuomo/Lazio matchup would go, Cuomo would win 68-22.

SC-Gov: Well, maybe publicly proclaiming that your mistress is your "soulmate" and that you've had run-ins with other women (but never crossed "the sex line") isn't the best way to keep your job. After it looked like Mark Sanford was successfully digging in for the last few days, the tide seems to be turning: Columbia's The State says that 12 (of 27) state Senate Republicans have signed a letter to Sanford asking him to resign (including state Sen. Larry Grooms, who's running to replace Sanford and would suffer having to run against LG Andre Bauer as an incumbent), with 4 more on the record as supporting it but not signing it, or leaning in that direction; Jim DeMint also asked Sanford to pack it in. While the Columbia and Charleston papers haven't called for resignation, the News in Greenville yesterday joined the Spartanburg Herald-Journal (the twin cities of the state's bible belt) in publishing an editorial doing so.

NY-23: Looks like moderate GOP Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava, who has attracted the interest of both parties in the NY-23 special election, is going full-speed-ahead on the GOP side. She told supporters she'll be "aggressively seeking her party's nomination."

NY-29: Corning (pop. 11,000) mayor Tom Reed announced that he'll run against freshman Rep. Eric Massa in 2010. Reed seems to be running as an out-and-proud moderate, with the Main Street Partnership expected to support him. The NRCC has identified him as a leading recruit but hasn't endorsed him, with several other candidates reportedly still exploring the race. (For what it's worth, Corning is the hometown of Amo Houghton, former Corning Glass CEO and popular GOP moderate who held this seat for decades.)

PA-15: I'm starting to like Bethlehem mayor John Callahan more and more, as it's come out that in 2005 he proved he can match Rahm Emanuel F-bomb-for-F-bomb. Callahan's response to Emanuel's needling that "Are you tired of being fucking mayor yet?" was "It's better than being a fucking congressman." (The only reason this is relevant today is that the NRCC is now using this incident to argue that he's now disqualified from becoming a congressman.)

TN-03: Former GOP state chair Robin Smith made it official, that she's running to replace Zach Wamp in the 3rd. She had previously quit her party job to focus full-time on exploring the race, so no surprise here; Smith is the likely GOP frontrunner.

NRCC: The NRCC wasted no time in launching ads to go after the potentially vulnerable House Dems who voted yes on cap-and-trade. Rep. Tom Perriello is the recipient of the dread TV ad this time, while they also took out radio spots and robocalls against Harry Teague, Rick Boucher, Bruce Braley, Betsy Markey, Vic Snyder, Baron Hill, Mary Jo Kilroy, Alan Grayson, Zack Space, Bart Gordon, Debbie Halvorson, John Boccieri, and Ike Skelton.

Votes (pdf): The Hill has a handy scorecard arranged by district lean while showing how many times vulnerable Dem representatives have broken ranks on 15 important bills. The biggest defector, unsurprisingly, is Bobby Bright, who flipped 13 out of 15 times. (Compared with Chet Edwards, in an even more difficult district but who defected only twice.) The guy who stands out like a sore thumb, though, is Joe Donnelly, who defected 8 times in IN-02, a district that Obama actually won, 54-45.

MS-St. House: Democrats held the line in a special election in Mississippi state House district 82, as Democrat Wilber Jones held the seat. This is an African-American majority seat, but attracted some attention because the GOP ran a credible African-American candidate, Bill Marcy... but he still went on to lose, 66-34. Dems hold the edge in the House, 75-47.

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Could Scozzafava conceivably get both nominations?
New York does allow cross endorsing.  Do the GOP and the Dems ever go for the same person or are they like King Azaz and the Mathemagician from The Phantom Tollbooth who "agreed to disagree" (on everything)?

In NY-13 last year
when they were at their most hopeless, the GOP at least floated the idea of cross-endorsing Mike McMahon, although that didn't happen (but it would have been only slightly more embarrassing than running Straniere). Plus, last year in VT-AL, Peter Welch ran in the general on both the Dem and GOP lines, although that was because there was no actual GOP primary candidate and he got more write-ins than anyone else on that empty line in the GOP primary.

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as long as we can count on scozzafava to support obama 85%
i think the dems should "cross-endorse" her:)

but, because she probably disagrees with obama on most of the issues that matter, i think the dems shold probably find a democrat to run for the seat.


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Melancon stands out for me
Conservative district but only four defections. Not bad at all.

Mark my words: Bobby Bright will switch parties
If and when the political winds shift again, this sorry bastard will switch parties.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

I'm not sure.
Even accounting for the pronounced national trends in 2008, in his district it would have been much easier to run for the Republican nomination; and they courted him to do so, as I recall.  He opted to try the hard way and win as a Democrat, and it was a pretty near-run thing.

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Ten hurricanes of wind
would be needed.  The idea that tis district coud get MORE Republican is quite an imagination stretch.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/...

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Winds in the District
Not winds in the district but winds nationally. The issue is whether or not Bright would switch parties if nationally the tides turned against the Democrats with him being in the minority. He basically doesn't seem like a Democrat to me in any way. Is there any position he has that is similar to that of the Democratic mainstream? I really don't have issue with a "big tent" party or conservative democrats, but there comes a point in which having a person vote against you 85% of the time and having to defend them and have lower party loyalty and someone who will vote against you 99% of the time is a very similar thing.

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He's not elected nationally
That's no argument, and really doesn't make sense anyway, since for the GOP to be in a majority someday, Bright's seat would already be lost.

Almost by definition he will never change parties because of the "winds of change".  

http://www.dailykos.com/story/...


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Could Bright win a Rethug primary?
Is he wingnutty enough to suit them?

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He's certainly the "Democrat" who would be best able to do so.
Plus, incumbency would mean a lot.  Afterall, how many Democrats-turned-Republicans have lost in their primaries?  Billy Tauzin didn't.  Nathan Deal didn't.  Ben Nighthorse Campbell didn't.  Richard Shelby didn't.

Follow the elections in Georgia at the 2010 Georgia Race Tracker.

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Greg Laughlin
In Texas - he was successfully primaried by none other than noted Paulist weirdo Ron Paul in 1996, his first election after switching parties after the 1994 debacle.

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Being fair to Bright
re: Edwards' votes, Chet's been reelected in his current district three times, through some of the toughest years for Democrats in recent memory.  He's got as much job security as a Dem holding that sort of district will ever have.  Bright's a newbie who hasn't built up the sort of support base that might allow him to take more risks.

Exactly
Bobby Bright and Walt Minnick are freshman in very hostile districts meaning that even if they wanted to, they cannot vote for everything Obama wants. Even Chet Edwards who is entrenched in his district cannot afford to take it easy, he was only reelected by 7 points last year against a nobody.

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Ramstad: "I'm a Republican"
That's what he said when asked which party's nomination he would run for. Note the avoidance of the question.

Nonetheless, I would be really surprised if he didn't get the Republican nomination. To me, he's like to Minnesota's Republicans as Charlie Crist is to Florida's, a slam-dunk.

As for SC, I'm on my hands and knees praying that Sanford drops out, Andre Bauer takes over and reneges on his promise not to run for re-election in 2010, he clears the primary field, and then does something completely goofy and scandalous to ensure a Dem win. From what I've heard, the guy has plenty of opportunities to mess up on the public stage, from the simply weird to the far more "interesting".  


MN GOP endorsed an opponent of popular incumbent Gov Carlson
in 1994 because he was pro-choice.  Ramstad might win a GOP primary, but it's not a slam-dunk.

And Crist's isn't either.  People see these as battles for the soul of the party.


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Donnelly
FWIW, Joe Donnelly also has the largest gap between his Lifetime Progressive Punch score and his Lifetime score on Crucial votes, 41.16 points (he takes the progressive vite 75% of the time overall and just 34% on Crucual votes either lost by Progressives or won by 20 or fewer votes).  That ranking is the biggest spread in either the House or the Senate.

Donnelly is used by Progressive Punch as their example of a Congressman whwo votes nore conservatively than he has to.

Looks like he's been a bad vote for a while.


This "while" being the last term and a half
He hasn't been around for long.  He was elected as a blue dog to capture what was (believed to be, at least) a red district.

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Wow. I figured his father
would push him into it.  Poll numbers must be that bad...

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they weren't good enough
to warrant the time and effort and lost money from lobbying.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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More like: NH has gone Democratic
and it's not swinging back anytime soon.

Northern Appalachia is fading out as a culture and a (Republican) political force.  The two Maine Senators are left.  A couple of House Reps in upstate New York and central Pennsylvania.  And the majority in the Pennsylvania state Senate.


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That PA state legislature is mark on our record
barely control the state house and the Rs dominate the state senate. Good way to show the rest of the nation that "The liberal lines of the NE" stop here!

Also about 2 republican governors too many for me in the NE. Gregg's gone in '10, so senate wise I can handle there just being the two from Maine.

And then there's Joe-mentum who suddenly is starting to sound like a Republican again with his change of stance on public option.


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Hmm
I always thought Joe-mentum was liberal on health care. But that was a few years ago when I last checked.

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NE Republicans
Don't forget Jersey.  The state still has 5 House Republicans (8 Democrats) although 4 are real moderates.  The fifth, Scott Garrett is purebred wingnut with a career Progressive Punch score of 3.80 IIRC.  And sinking.

The Northeast is converting to the Massachusetts Model: it will elect Republicans as Governor or Mayor but not to the federal offices where the national Republicans dominate their caucus.

So in the House it is none in New England, three in NY state, 5 in NJ, 7 in PA, 1 in MD, and one in DE.  I'd love to see a few more drop.  DE looks promising, PA-6 looks good if Gerlach does not run, NY-23 is possible.  We missed big chances on open seats in NJ-7 and NY-26 last cycle.  MD-6 is a long-shot pretty much dependent on the aged Roscoe Bartlett doing foolish things.  I used to live in PA-15 and I am not optimistic despite the Cook PVI.


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re: NE Republicans
NJ-2 is worth trying. Lobiondo has not faced a top tier challenger in a long time.
NJ-5: A Democratic mayor is Sussex County is considering running against Garrett.
PA-16 (Lancaster/Chester): Traditionally very Republican but Obama got 48%. Pitts has also not faced a top tier challenger in a long time.
MD-6: Frederick County is becoming more Democratic. Washington County is about 5 year behind Frederick. Unfortunately Carroll County won't budge. A rust-belt style Democrat from Allegany County would have a chance here. However it will probably be made more Republican after redistricting if Dem doesn't take it in 2010.
NY-3: If Peter King runs statewide then we have a chance, but we have to do it right because a chance to take NY-3 only happens once.

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NJ-5
That district seems unwinnable for Democrats, especially as long as Garrett is in (though considering how much of an extremist he is, I wouldn't hold out much hope for an open seat there, either). I'm not suggesting Garrett should be unopposed in the next election! But the district really seems to be fool's gold, and I'd encourage anyone considering contributions to House campaigns to look for more likely wins elsewhere.

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I can agree with all of that

Yes, embarrassingly enough I did overlook NJ....  The major problem there for national Democratic purposes is basically the nature of NYC suburbia.  Which has remaining significantly large ethnic enclaves of conservative 2nd/3rd generation immigrants who use Democratic and Republican organizations against each other and to live off taxpayers.

I was happy to see the Staten Island Italian Republican grip break last year- a good start.  (It's also happening on Long Island.  Finally.)  One of the few virtues of a Christie governor term in NJ might be that he breaks up some similar "Democratic" organizations.  Organizations which happen to be the reason why the state party is perpetually on shaky ground with their voters and swing voters.  When those are no longer a Democratic liability the Republican one(s) in south Jersey will also come under pressure and start to break down.

I'm optimistic about DE at-large and PA-6 becoming pickups next year as well.  The longer term picture in the Northeast is quite good, too- 1-2 pickups a year, possibly, for a couple more election cycles.  


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great news, its looking more and more
like Hodes is going to have an easy ride. This is important, replacing a conservative with a liberal. That's more important to fight filibusters over important legislation.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Im not sure
Despite being a former Senator (and thus having name rec) hes still getting pounded by Paul Hodes in recent polls. Hes probably too conservative to win it. So this may be a case where a lesser known, but more moderate candidate, is better for the GOP.

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he was not geting pounded,
he was just a few points behind. Ayotte starts off far behind and is untested as a candidate.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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I should have instead said
Sununu was under 40%, which isnt a good position for an ex-Sen. to be in. Rather than being beaten badly in the MOE. My bad.  

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Donnelley though is
preparing to establish conservative bona fides because he will be targeted in the 2012 GOP reidstricting and it will be made about a 54-46 McCain district.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

Eric Massa/South Carolina
Massa seems like a politician of great integrity. Do you think he could be threatened by a moderate Republican opponent? It sure would be smart for the Republicans to nominate a moderate to oppose Massa, but I hope he wins, anyway.

As far as SC is concerned, Bauer seems to be very unpopular among Republican politicians, and he was slammed pretty hard in the Greenville News editorial recommending that Sanford step down. Unless rank and file Republicans are very different from politicians in SC, Bauer won't win a Republican primary, and I don't think we should root for very bad Republican candidates to win primaries in deep-red states, where they'd have a good chance of defeating whoever runs on the Democratic line. A 60/40 chance at someone horrendous is not better than an 80/20 chance at someone only moderately terrible, if that ends up being the choice. (Of course, if I were in South Carolina, I'd vote for a Democrat, regardless, but I'm a liberal New York Democrat, and there are a few people as far left or further left than I in South Carolina - I actually know some, but sadly, there aren't enough to make a difference in statewide elections.)


Bauer won't 'clear the field' on the GOP side
There will be at LEAST three or four major candidates on the GOP side.  Given the candidates involved and the acrimomy that is virtually certain, the winner will NOT be a shoo-in by any means in the general.  Jim Rex, Inez Tenebaum (my personal choice), state senator Vincent Shaheen could all give the winner a genuine run for their money.    

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History
I don't have any deep knowledge of South Carolina political history. When's the last time they elected a Democratic governor? Since then, what percentages of the vote have gone Democratic for governor there?  

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SC

Jim Hodges served as governor from 1999-2003 when he lost 53-47 to Gov Sanford. Sanford was held to 55 percent against Tommy Moore in 2006*.

1998 was a good year for Democratic governors in the south as Democrats swept GA, AL, SC and FL and MS in 1999 but 2002 sucked for the deep south as Democrats lost in all these states (MS in 2003) but won states in 2002 that were more reliably Democratic on the national level like LA and TN (both states voted for Clinton twice).

AR is kind of fluke with ethical issues hurting Democrats post Clinton until 2006 and NC has been great since 1992 as Democrats have won each GOV race since then. I think everyone knows about VA...



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FL GOP won GOV in 1998
So forgot what I said about it.  

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Moore could have won too...
with a little more money, and a better campaign.  He literally went AWOL for over two months after a momentum-building primary (mid-June) win. One of the stupidest things I've ever seen a candidate do.    

He got better at campaigning by mid-october, but it was too little, too late by then.


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Yeah if you're getting 45% as a Democrat in SC
You're doing something right and can probably close the deal with a little bit better campaigning. Same thing in GA once you get above the requisite 40-43% that you will almost always get unless black turnout is unusually low. After that point something is going right and further investment is a smart idea to close the deal.

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NRCC
If the NRCC were a business then whoever was in charge of running those ads would be fired on the spot. I mean really...wasting money on Rick Boucher, Bart Gordon and Ike Skelton? Are you kidding me? And those are just 3 names.  

Yeah Boucher and Gordon didn't even have GOP opponents in 2008
And Ike Skelton cruised with 65% of the vote. Pretty dumb...

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Is there a way for them to "seed" the district without campaigning against the incumbent?
Especially if they'd be basically campaigning against an institution in the district?

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In 2006 and 2008
Democrats decided to target entrenched Republican incumbents in liberal districts, such as Chris Shays and Jim Walsh. It paid off. Now they are just emulating our strategy.

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Anything can happen in politics...
Such as Jim Leach's defeat in 06. But the chances of them being defeated are pretty remote and there are better and more necessary places for the GOP to spend.  

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Those are all districts
Which will be remarkably hard to hold (in their present configurations) when those guys retire. I can't even imagine the seething resentment the NRCC must feel about a guy like Rick Boucher, who holds an absolutely brutal district almost effortlessly (though I know he had some serious fights back in the day). VA-09 was R+2 in the 90s, R+7 in the first part of this decade, and is now R+11. Despite Obama's huge surge in Virginia, this district didn't budge at all. (Look at a map and you'll have all the answer you need.)

So I think duffman is right - the NRCC has no choice but to look at a long-term strategy. But it's not that straightforward. We've still been quite good at opportunistically winning conservative districts, so even if they get back places like MO-04, by the time they do so, who knows what other red seats we might have picked off - it's a game of whack-a-mole for them.

Perhaps more importantly, as time progresses and retirement prospects for guys like Skelton and Boucher increase, just think about how many districts in states like California and Texas will keep marching our way. On a national level, time is not on the GOP's side.


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You think it's better for the NRCC to play long-term offense than defense?
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No
I mean, these radio ads don't cost `em much. But honestly, I'm not sure what the hell I'd do if I were the NRCC.

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I was thinking, I'd play defense
and either try to protect high-performing incumbents in blue districts (such as Reichert) as a remaining piece of evidence that the Republican Party isn't a party of extremists that's restricted to the South.

Or I'd try to pick off Democrats in red districts, in order to stem the tide of Democrats invading red areas.  But given election records, along with the national mood at the moment, this might be far more difficult.

Or both, I guess.  These are rather obvious ideas anyway.

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