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IL-Gov: Madigan Has Big Lead on Quinn but Many Undecideds Remain

by: DavidNYC

Wed Apr 29, 2009 at 9:22 PM EDT


Public Policy Polling (PDF) (4/24-26, likely voters, no trendlines):

Pat Quinn (D-inc): 29
Lisa Madigan (D): 45
Undecided: 26
(MoE: ±4.8%)

So, er, yeah - I think I was a bit too dismissive of the possibility of Lisa Madigan getting into the governor's race yesterday. With an almost ridiculous 74-13 approval rating, she has a lot of doors open before her - including not just the statehouse but also the Senate race (which James will cover in another post).

Quinn is hardly doing poorly - he gets a 56-14 job approval rating. There's a little bit of apples-to-oranges here, though - PPP tested Madigan's favorability but Quinn's job approvals. The former question can often yield better numbers. For instance, Obama has a 63-27 favorability rating, but a 61-32 nationwide job approval average.

What I don't doubt is that Madigan has an edge in the head-to-head. But with Quinn doing well, this contest bears little resemblance to the other notable race where a Dem incumbent might get a serious primary challenge, NY-Gov. There are plenty of undecideds and Madigan hasn't even declared her candidacy yet. Still, it would be foolish to discount the possibility of her getting in. Therefore, SSP is adding this seat to our Races to Watch category.

UPDATE: DGM has more in diaries.

DavidNYC :: IL-Gov: Madigan Has Big Lead on Quinn but Many Undecideds Remain
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Taxes
Hopefully an Illinois native can confirm this, but I was told once that no Illinois governor who proposed an increase in the state income tax has ever been reelected. If that's true, I understand it, but I'm still surprised. I didn't realize Illinoisans were all wanna-be Club for Growthers!

It's too bad, though. I had a chance to speak with someone who has known Governor Quinn for a long time, and he said Quinn is a great person-- maybe a little eccentric, but a good guy.


I doubt that will be a big deal
At least in the Democratic Primary. Most people see the income tax hike as the "responsible" thing to lower the deficit hidden by Blago. Then again, I'm almost certain that Madigan will win the election, but that's because she is so popular not because Quinn has done something necessarily wrong.


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Magic Government with No Taxes and All Services
is something that too many people think is possible.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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But ....
We all know that are tons of pork projects (schools, healthcare, roads, bridges) that can be cut from government so we don't have to raise taxes!

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What's striking is that Madigan would probably have...
An easier time winning the Senate race according to the poll. In a four-way contest with Schakowsky, Burris, and Giannoulis she still gets an impressive 44% of the vote with everyone else in the teens, it's entirely possible that she could get an outright majority if Schakowsky isn't in the mix.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


Yeah
Madigan is, bar only one (guess who), the most popular politician in the state. She's been a great AG, and used the political benefits of the office masterfully (every public enemy you can think of she's opened an investigation on). She has pretty sterling anti-Blago credentials, and she'll have the Machine, the money, and a little bit of history behind her.

The only real attack is through her dad, Mike Madigan, Chair of the state party and Speaker of the State House. She's pretty well innoculated against any "nepotism" charges, but the idea of the Madigans holding 2 of the 3 cards in every budget deal will understandably make some people shiver.

I also worry that she'll be cravenly political on a few things- for instance, smacking Quinn around for a tax hike that we all know we need. She hasn't done it yet (and it's more her dad's style than hers, anyway), but I'm watching closely.

Anyway, she's very talented, and has got to be considered the favorite for whatever seat she decides to run for.


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She hasn't really
Shown any interest in the senate seat though.

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Pat Quinn
Will not beat Lisa Madigan. It would take an eminently skilled pol to be able to win a Dem primary against the Chicago machine and Quinn is a good guy, but he's not that good a pol.


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