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CA-36: Jane Harman in Major Scandal

by: DavidNYC

Mon Apr 20, 2009 at 1:13 PM EDT


CQ breaks a mindblowing story:

Rep. Jane Harman, the California Democrat with a longtime involvement in intelligence issues, was overheard on an NSA wiretap telling a suspected Israeli agent that she would lobby the Justice Department to reduce espionage-related charges against two officials of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, the most powerful pro-Israel organization in Washington.

Harman was recorded saying she would "waddle into" the AIPAC case "if you think it'll make a difference," according to two former senior national security officials familiar with the NSA transcript.

In exchange for Harman's help, the sources said, the suspected Israeli agent pledged to help lobby Nancy Pelosi , D-Calif., then-House minority leader, to appoint Harman chair of the Intelligence Committee after the 2006 elections, which the Democrats were heavily favored to win.

Seemingly wary of what she had just agreed to, according to an official who read the NSA transcript, Harman hung up after saying, "This conversation doesn't exist."

Believe it or not, it actually gets worse - much worse. Harman was actually investigated for this previously, but new revelations indicate she got off the hook for the most odious of reasons:

[C]ontrary to reports that the Harman investigation was dropped for "lack of evidence," it was Alberto R. Gonzales, President Bush's top counsel and then attorney general, who intervened to stop the Harman probe.

Why? Because, according to three top former national security officials, Gonzales wanted Harman to be able to help defend the administration's warrantless wiretapping program, which was about break in The New York Times and engulf the White House.

And that's exactly what she did:

Harman, [Gonazles] told [CIA Director Porter Goss], had helped persuade the newspaper to hold the wiretap story before, on the eve of the 2004 elections. And although it was too late to stop the Times from publishing now, she could be counted on again to help defend the program

[Gonzales] was right.

On Dec. 21, 2005, in the midst of a firestorm of criticism about the wiretaps, Harman issued a statement defending the operation and slamming the Times, saying, "I believe it essential to U.S. national security, and that its disclosure has damaged critical intelligence capabilities."

So, to recap: Harman, a member of the Blue Dogs, offered to help get espionage charges reduced against two AIPAC members, in exchange for an unnamed "Israeli agent" (the person on the other end of the call) lobbying Nancy Pelosi to appoint Harman chair of the Intelligence Committee. (Thankfully, Pelosi did not.)

Then, to make things far more ugly, Alberto Gonzales offered to drop the investigation of Harman's Israeli quid pro quo so that she would help defend the Cheney Administration's outrageous warantless wiretapping program, which she had done before and did again with gusto. Hell, you might even call this blackmail. I can't think of much worse than this.

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Stinks
But a bit harsh to lump the whole Blue Dog caucus in with her.

This is unexcusable
Serious charges need to be considered for Harman.  This is borderline treason.

It does highlight the influence of AIPAC on US politics
Can't imagine how much of this goes on and isn't caught on tape.

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Another Thought Comes To Mind
Why are Americans so fearful of Arab terrorist? It seems to be from stories like this that the Israelis have an even more dangerous and insidious hold on the American government.

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Well, That's Actually A Serious Question
Have you heard American politicians talk about Israel at all? There is always 100% pro-Israel statements from both Republicans and Democrats. Anyone who dares to even make the slightest ill remark against Israel, for example saying that they are contributing to the problem of violence over there, is immediately dismissed as a quack and countered with the statement "Israel has a right to defend itself."

The debate over Israel is really no debate at all.


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This isn't going anywhere good


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He actually IS partially correct


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he is partially correct
the arguments are always very one-sided partially due to the strong influence and pro-Israel lobbies. It does a disservice by often failing to note Israel's role in instigating violence  and overreacting, especially during the Lebanese war. And he does have a point that no one who is critical of Israel's policies lasts very long. Therefore the situation is never fixed becasue we are not tougher on Israel.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Money and influence
There are exactly two Muslims in Congress (both AA, not Arab).  There are a ton of Jewish congressmen and senators.  Percentage wise they have nearly 10 times the % in Congress than their numbers as a share of the U.S. population.

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I don't think this post
And this site are the place for a meta-discussion on Israel. Let's stick to the story at hand.

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Ehh that's stretching it
I think there are many poltiicians they have too great of an influence over, but I'm sorry, I don't fear either of the two groups you mentioned.  

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Far too many competing forces
for there to be any sort of well-coordinated conspiracy for long, heh.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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No way
We all know this is a massive Jew conspiracy.  They meet in secret to plan these things out well in advance.  

Yes, this IS a snark.  Or a quote from Eric Cartman.  Not sure which.


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Looks Like
Someone's looking to get primaried...

Looks like
someone's looking to go to jail, more like.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Also.
We Democrats had BETTER not screw THIS one up.  We screwed up on getting rid of Dollar Bill and Joe Cao is a deserved punishment.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Harman
She only won her last primary with 62%.  And I don't think it was anything close to a top-tier challenger.  A serious primary is possible.

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Harman's the wealthiest person in the House.
http://www.rollcall.com/featur...
So she can throw any number of her own millions at an opponent.
But she doesn't even need to. The aerospace industry is all over CA-36 and loves her. They'll be her campaign ATM if need be.
Bottom line: good luck with that primary challenge.

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Interesting
Never knew her family owned Harman Kardon electronics.  I almost bought a Harman receiver for my entertainment system awhile back.

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Yes - that's true. Redistricting her into
a 50%-50% district (or even a 48% Dem-52% Repub one) would be another possibility.  

I live in CA-36, it's incredibly Democratic and deserves a real Dem one way or the other.  


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Lots of question marks on this story IMO
First, what is meant by "suspected Israeli agent?" Second, who leaked this, and why? (Goss?) Third, if this is true, when did Nancy Pelosi know about it, and did it play any role in her decision to promote Reyes over Harman in Jan. '07?

Isn't there personal animosity there
Going back much longer?

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Yes, but that doesn't end the discussion for me
Seniority is a hard thing to overcome.  

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Maybe
Certainly she will be now be asked. Any fallout on Pelosi could go either way - positive in that she blocked her, negative in that she knew about it and didn't say anything.

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I don't see
How Pelosi gets implicated.  She got lobbied by AIPAC and that's all I can see being said.

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lol
Forget Pelosi, everyone is awash in AIPAC money.  Harman will get off scott free.

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You seem to have an uncanny
Ability to think you can predict the future with unerring certainty. Small wonder that the words "I think" or "in my opinion" seldom seem to grace your comments.

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Not "unerring" ceertainty
But after watching a re-run countless times you naturally tend to develop a sense for how the show is going to end.

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You keep missing half the story
Regarding Gonzales and the DOJ. What's more, as I noted below, all the AIPAC lobbying in the world didn't do jack for Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, who both got indicted for espionage.

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I'm definately with you on Gonzo and the DOJ
They are the big story here.  Didn't intend to overplay the AIPAC/Harman part of the story.  If anything the part about Gonzo/Bush DOJ was just another scandel among many from that bunch.

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Lol, "Gonzo"
I didn't know people used that nickname.  On the other hand, I'm fresh off of recently watching all of Kiddy Grade, which was animated by a studio named Gonzo Digimation or something...

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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P.S.
If "AIPAC money" was magically capable of making everything go away, then how come it didn't work in this case? Not only did Harman NOT get the Intelligence post, the two guys she was supposedly lobbying for (Keith Weissman and Steve Rosen) DID get indicted for espionage (and not lesser charges).

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Pelosi didn't know about it
At least, the new aspects of it, because Gonzales withheld the information:

Then-CIA Director Porter J. Goss reviewed the Harman transcript and signed off on the Justice Department's FISA application. He also decided that, under a protocol involving the separation of powers, it was time to notify then-House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., and Minority Leader Pelosi, of the FBI's impending national security investigation of a member of Congress - to wit, Harman.

Goss, a former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, deemed the matter particularly urgent because of Harman's rank as the panel's top Democrat. ...

Pelosi and Hastert never did get the briefing.



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Rotten and Not Good, BUT . . .
This scandal does not involve sex, drugs, or a higher profile foreign government of "enemy" status. I expect the American public to not really care and for this to eventually blow over.

If I've learned anything from the Bush administration, scandals don't really matter, you can wait anything out and survive so long as you have never have to face re-election or your district has been gerrymandered in your favor, as is the case for Harman.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


Well
We're better than Republicans and this is treasonous.  Get her the he'll out of Congress

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I'm just sayin'
I read this story 4 times before it was posted here, and i didn't get it the first few times I read it. I understand fully what happened now and . . . honestly I don't really care that much and don't expect the regular Joes to care much either. And trust me, I am a regular Jo(s)e(ph).

Hay will be raised in the primary and Harman will come back with "I've been here for years, working to protect you all, you know me." Cash is influxed, she wins. This is not a single issue big enough to beat her in a primary.

As typing this I became even more pessimistic.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


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Except
A new investigation may be opened up.

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i'm with you
I read this, and had no idea what was going on with this. Thank David and SSP for helping me make sense of all this.

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My pleasure
And yes, this is a complicated story with a lot of moving parts, involving not one but TWO quid pro quos, and tie-ins to multiple scandals and cases (the AIPAC spying case, the politicization of the DOJ, the warantless wiretapping, and of course, the investigation of Harman herself).

Trowaman is right that this doesn't involve sex, drugs, Vladimir Putin or even money, but neither did the original DOJ scandals which brought down Gonzales. Classic corruption - even without dollars changing hands - can still make a story.


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It'll be swept under the rug
Noone in Congress is going to want to criticize Harman on this.  You just watch.  Since Israel is involved it'll quickly disappear and cause Harman few if any problems.

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Good point
Which if anything makes it worse. Yuk.

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You might want to put down your cystal ball
The only reason this did not turn into a full-blown investigation at the time is because the ultra-corrupt Gonzales DOJ dropped the inquiry (which had been authorized by Porter Goss) in exchange for help from Harman. In other words, Harman (originally) got off the hook for reasons have nothing to do with Israel.

What's more, while Israel "is involved," as you say, this scandal also "involves" what I just described above - a corrupt deal with Alberto Gonzales to defend an unconstitutional wiretapping program. That's a pretty big freakin' deal, and no amount of supposed Israel oogedy-boogedy can fog over that.


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Quite the irony there
Since she got caught in a wiretap.

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Man
I hadn't even thought about that. That is one freakin' hell of an irony. Reminds me of the Law & Order episode where the first test of the new death penalty law (rewind to 1995) is against a white, upper middle class professional who commits murder. At one point, his wife exclaims with disbelief that they had voted for Pataki because he wanted to reinstate the death penalty.

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Pwned.
I have to get back to watching more Law & Order.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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I think it's interesting that so many think this will blow over.
The magic word "indictment" tends to change things a bit, guys.  I have no certainty that Harman will be prosecuted, but I'd say it is possible.  She was about to be prosecuted before Gonzales stopped it.

So: what do Eric Holder and Rahm Emanuel want to do now?  And, is there any way to get Gonzales for this?  The blackmailee is the one who committed the crime, but the blackmailer (who also happened to be Attorney General!) surely committed one as well, no?

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08


Harman yes
And Gonzo on obstruction certainly. From a purely political perspective it makes it a bipartisan scandal and more importantly it would be the right thing to do.

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I agree
This will be hard for Holder and Rahm to ignore. What's more, Pelosi is said to despise Harman and may well put pressure behind the scenes to re-open the investigation.

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She was about to be investigated
not prosecuted.  However, with the transcript of the call as evidence, they may have a pretty good case.  We'll only know if they actually do the investigation.  Frankly, if Harman is as innocent as she claims, she should be calling for the investigation to clear her name.

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If she actually did get prosecuted
Her legal team would make O.J.'s look like amateurs.

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Primary her putrid ass


A few things.
1) This story is planted by anonymous source(s).  So before we get too far ahead of ourselves lets not ignore the possibility the story itself holds no weight and are just smears by political enemies.

One thing we learned from the Bushies is be VERY suspicious of stories where no one is going on the record.

2) If this story IS true it represents a situation that is PROBABLY not illegal given how our system works but is patently unethical.

We're going to find these situations more and more now that we're in a the majority.  Democrats who have crossed the line that we need to excise before their stench drowns us the way it did the Republicans.  One example in the future might be Charles Rangel.  A congressman I actually really like but one who has stepped on ethical minefield after minefield.  One more scandal and he probaby needs to be cut loose.

3) AIPAC gets the most attention because of their high profile but also because of conspiratorialists.  AIPAC in someways enjoys the notoriety because it makes them seem more powerful than they are.  Other nations including India and China have their own groups that sometimes funnels money in often dubious ways.  To the extent AIPAC represent a "problem" it is one that extends to far more parties than just them.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


"possibility ... just smears by political enemies"
Who might these enemies of Jane Harman be?
*AIPAC?  I don't think so
*ex-Bushies? But why, she's virtually a DINO on this topic
*the intellligence community? No, she hasn't wronged them
*Pelosi? Why? she nutured Harman with the non-appointment
* And Harman isn't anywhere in the Democratic leadership, so she's not really a high value target.
*progressive and liberal Democratics? Well, you got me there.

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Anyone.
All we know about "source" or "sources" is he/she/they passed a story to congressional quarterly that evidently must've been passed over by other news organizations since CQ while a respected publication is not the highest wrung by any measure in the media foodchain.  Probably because anonymously sourced stories can be tricky particularly if no corroborating evidence is presented and/or available.

As for who.  Could be some bureucrat(s).  Could be someone in the Obama or Bush administration who doesn't like her.  It could be political enemies in California.  It could be courageous whistleblowers who are afraid of losing their jobs.  In short it could be anyone.

I am not saying she is innocent.  I'm not saying this isn't worth investigating.  And I'm certainly not saying there shouldn't be consequences if this is true.  All I'm saying is wait to see where the dust settles and whether this story does in fact have legs.

NY-13, Democrat. Blog @ http://infinitefunction.wordpr...


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Destructive
This is a sad story.

First it illustrates - as several posters have pointed out - the depth of Israeli influence with specific members of our government and political establishment. That said, while Rep. Harman's actions are certainly reprehensible, this isn't the first time that Congress Members and Senators have gone out of their way to advance the interests of other nations with questionable regard to American interests. While I think Harman should be removed from office, this shocking revelation will hopefully spur more oversight and regulation of the lobby industry.

In addition, Israel and its supporters do themselves a disservice by condemning criticism and critics of Israeli policies. Indeed the United States does Israel a disservice by reserving criticism and by supplying unconditional support. In so doing all we do is provide ammunition and justification to the legions of anti-Semites.

I will be interested in how President Obama responds. Hopefully he can steer a new course. American-Israeli-Palestinian relations will be consistently deadlocked until the U.S. can steer a more balanced course.


Classic case of human short-sighted-ness, perhaps?


party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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It's also a reminder
that bipartisanship often means Republicans and Democrats collaborating to screw over the country.

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WTF. Get out. Now.
At the very least, she should step down from her post as chairperson of the Homeland Security Committee's Intelligence/Sharing/Terrorism Subcomittee, until this matter is resolved.  Any work done under her risks being seen as tainted, even if she is innocent.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


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