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California: A Redistricting Discussion

by: ArkDem the Ragin Cajin

Tue Apr 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM EDT


I know we've all blamed California Democrats plenty for cowardice in 2002, but I've thought about it and I come to a clearer decision. Things were different then. They had just been through the hard fought 90s where they had to fight tooth and nail to win the senate Seats, the Governorship and a huge numbers of house seats.

Look at the political environment. Gray Davis was very unpopular, the Gary Condit scandal had just racked state Democrats, and Bush was wildly popular and many of areas of the state looked a lot different than they do now, after another 8 years of political trends.

ArkDem the Ragin Cajin :: California: A Redistricting Discussion
The one thing I think we can all be assured on is that they won't be so timid again, not after Kerry's and and especially Obama's margin in the state, Obama is the benchmark I'd use because he will be running again in 2012 and hopefully will win the state by an even bigger margin then giving coattails. Regardless many of the states areas and major Demographics are trending even more Democratic and doing so very fast.

Here are a list of the Republicans who must be targeted and how.

Dana Rohrabacher. No excuse for having someone this vitrolic a Representative. There's no way LA should have a representative who refused to meet President Bush at one time because he was too liberal and who would dress up with Minute Men if he could. Obama made progress in this current gerrymander which contains all the Republican coastal areas south of LA. The 46th has a large hispanic population that is growing quickly, and a large Asian population.

Democrats will probably take move hispanic areas out of CA-37 and CA-36 to make a coalition Hispanic VRA district. All they would need to do is increase it by 24 points from 16% to 40% and then use the large Asian population. Laura Richardson's district has plenty of Democrats to spare, as does Harman's, and Harman is a little to conservative for her district anyway. Doing this to Rohrabacher just gives me a certain pleasure, there's such a fitting irony to it. Hopefully he will be defeated by a Hispanic Democrat.

Ed Royce is another big, sore thumb. McCain still own it 51-47. It covers northern Orange County, I'd change that. The best way to change it would to be to lop off that southern hoof into Orange that goes around Loretta Sanchez's district and move the district North into some of the areas repesented by Grace Napiltano and Linda Sanchez, notable Cerritos. I'd make the new 40th about 56-43 Democratic to just to be safe and then I'd leave all the remaining Republican areas in the 42nd district, I'd buff it up with all the most conservative areas.

As I've said elsewhere Bilbary can be targeted. Susan Davis' district has become so overwhelmingly Democratic it can be diluted a little. Bilbary's district is trending out from under him for, an ironically, second time, losing the first time to Susan Davis. A little mixing up could create two San Diego districts that went around 59-40 for Obama and both would be Hispanic coalition VRA districts and would be hispanic majority by the end of the decade. The San Deigo can safely support two Democrats now, its time to get to it here.

CA-03 should also be made more Democratic. It can be done. I'd revert it to a district similar to its old boundaries; part of Sacrmento and North Sacremento County Amador County and Yolo. Yolo county is so liberal it would push the district back to the left and Lungren wouldn't be able to hold such a district. CA-01, Mike Thompson, doesn't need Yolo anymore. Its become so liberal anyway and the trend doesn't show any sign of stopping.

Ken Calvert is weak Republican and politician. He's been racked by scandal in the 90s and barely managed to win a swing district then. So Democrats did the sensible thing, (and I'm mocking them here), and gave him a safely Republican district. When that trended towards Democrats he nearly lost again. I see a trend here. If his district were finally to be made Democratic leaning he'd lose to a strong candidate. It can be done, but to do it I'd make Mary Bono Mack and John Campbell safe. One out of three ain't bad, and the Inland Empire can't support more than one Democrat safely right now and Calvert is the weakest of the three so he should be the one targeted.

And there you have it. A loss of five Republican Congressional seats and without going to such extremes as Republicans did in Texas. If we went that far we could probably knock out another two districts or so.

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whaddya you think?
No map, just some discussion and a baseline for what I think should and will happen.

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California passed a non-partisan redistricting initiative in 2008
So that would have to be repealed in 2010 for your scenario to take place.

Actually,
it looks like it's only for state legislative districts, which doesn't make any sense to me.

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That's the only reason it passed
At least twice, California voters defeated commission-based congressional redistricting proposals at the ballot box that were vocally backed by Schwarzenegger and seen as partisan power grabs by the GOP. When the "reform movement" decided to put up a legislature-only measure, it passed by a hair (something like 50.4% to 49.6% -- ridiculously close). So in the 2010s, state legislative districts will be drawn by a commission and congressional districts by state legislators (kind of like Ohio, except that the legislative district commission will be nonpartisan/bipartisan rather than governed by whichever party commands a majority on the board).

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Arnold scheduled another round of ballot measures this year
And one thing noticably absent is any sort of proposed independent redistricting for Congressional races.  They seem to have given up on the idea.

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i liked the idea a bit myself
a nonpartisan judge committee redistricted Minnesota, and Iowa is always done like that, they are both well done for Democrats. It would kill Republicans in California because unlike the Dems who want safe D safe R the panel would have an obligation to make as many toss up districts as possible while obeying the VRA.

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Minnesota
That was not due to a mandatory independent process for redistricting, right?  I'd imagine it was because there was an independent Governor (Ventura) at the time who didn't like democratic or republcian maps.

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no it was because nobody could agree
there was a Democratic State Senate, a Republican state House and an Independent Governor, what a nightmare. At least Ventura destroyed any chance the Independence Party had of becoming a legitimate and competitive state party.

The judges did a very good job. Maybe two heavily Republican districts and two heavily Dem districts, one dem leaning, one rep leaning, and two toss up districts. A great job.

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no it was because nobody could agree
there was a Democratic State Senate, a Republican state House and an Independent Governor, what a nightmare. At least Ventura destroyed any chance the Independence Party had of becoming a legitimate and competitive state party.

The judges did a very good job. Maybe two heavily Republican districts and two heavily Dem districts, one dem leaning, one rep leaning, and two toss up districts. A great job.

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Hows
the feeling on this in CA? How does everyone think this is going to affect us?

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probably help by creating more
competitive districts.

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Competitiveness is not one of the criteria
the commission can use when redrawing the state legislative districts.  Originally, there was a competitiveness provision, but it was taken out at the last minute due to opposition from legislators.  The commission cannot even use partisan data when drawing the maps.

I contacted Common Cause, one of the initiative sponsors, about this at the time.  They responded that there will still be competitiveness in primaries, which is true no matter how the maps are drawn.  That did not address the real issue, however, which is competitivess in the general.

The state leg districts may end up being more competitive anyway, simply because legislators cannot draw safe districts for themselves. But, without an explicit competitiveness provision, this is far from assured.


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so what? they going for compactness
hopefully this won't end up helping Republicans.

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Yes, compactness is a key critereon
and yes it could end up helping Republicans. The Democratic Party opposed it but hardly spent any money and it won with 50.9% of the vote.

The criteria are:

- Develop reasonably equal populations of districts Comply with federal Voting Rights Act
- Minimize the splitting of counties and
cities into multiple districts
- Maintain "communities of interest" and neighborhoods
- Develop geographically compact districts
- Comprise Senate districts of two adjacent Assembly districts and BOE districts of ten adjacent Senate districts
- Do not favor or discriminate against political incumbents, candidates, or parties

http://www.smartvoter.org/2008...


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On a 5 seat gain
Really depends on 2010.  If Dems pickup more than 2 seats in 2010 then picking up 5 in 2012 is probably unlikely.  I don't think that scenario will happen though.

My best guess is Dems gain 1 or 2 seats in California in 2010 and with agressive redistricting pickup another 5-6 seatsin 2012.  Obama being on the ballot in 2012 will probably provide an additional boost downballot.


i don't think they'll pick up anything
thanks to their own gerrymander, except maybe Calvert.

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Wasn't mentioned
But our one and only Dem in need of shoring up is McNerney (CA-11).  That district can be transformed quite easily from an R+3 or so district to something along the lines of a D+4 or 5 seat since most of the surrounding areas are excessively Democratic territory.

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its trending Dem real quick anyway.


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it's R+1 now
It's the only district in the entire state of California where the PVI is different from the party of the Congressman representing.

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California has almost perfect correlation
between PVI and the party representing the district.

It has already been noted here that most of our best pickup opportunities in 2010 are in Southern California. I'm in favor of packing the most heavily Republican parts of southern California into 2 or 3 solidly Republican districts. Within 10 years even those districts will be competitive.

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Leadership usually plays a role
Any idea where the leading redistricting players (Democratic state house and senate majoprity leaders) are from in California?  If one or more of them live in southern CA or other marginally republican districts it might cause them to gerrymander a particular republican out of their seat in order for them to run for the redrawn dem-leaning district.

This happened in Florida in 2002 when Tom Feeney and Mario Diaz-Balart were in the GOP leadership and drew themselves favorable seats.


All the leaders already have super-safe seats.
The Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg is from Sacramento and Majority Leader Dean Florez is from near Bakersfield and his district also includes parts of Fresno.

Assembly Speaker Karen Bass is from L.A. with her district centered more on Culver City, and the Majority Leader Lori Saldana is from San Diego.

Senate Minority Leader Dennis Hollingsworth (R-Inland San Diego County) and Assembly Minority Leader Mike Villines (R-Fresno) also have super-safe districts, so with or without an independent commission, it would be very difficult to gerrymander their seats to become more competitive.

In fact, I am going to check the new PVIs of all the state leg districts.

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how is their a safe Democratic
seat around Bakersfield? That area is somehow so conservative that it, CA-22, still gave 59% to McCain, and was Bush's strongest district.

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Florez's district carves out the Democratic parts of Bakersfield, Fresno, and the area in between.
Obama won his district 59-39, and did especially well in the parts of the district in the two cities, winning those by 2:1 margins.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/election...

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Florez's district also mostly overlaps the safely Democratic 20th Congressional District, not the 22nd.


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I was actually referring to U.S. Congressional seats
Usually state legislators are looking to move up and get elected to Congress.  A good way of doing that is by tearing up a republican congressional seat in order to create a democratic-leaning district that they can win.  

Specifically I was wondering if any CA democratic leaders live in or near districts currently held by people like Rohrabacher, Lungren, Royce, Bilbray, etc.


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Maria Soldana
asst majority leader or something, see above, might carve herself a district to run against Bilbary.

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I just posted this
But I really do not think Democrats are going to be all that aggressive in their redistricting. GOP still holds power to stop the budget. They can hold it indefinitely. While that would probably make them horribly unpopular in the state when public services begin to shut down, they might just be willing to do it. Think of all the Democrats that fled Texas during Delay's redistricting.

Hopefully Democrats will be able to get enough votes, and they'll make some serious changes to California law. 2/3 for budget, 2/3 for tax increase, simple majority for ballot initiatives for both bonds and constitutional amendments. Our state is so fucking up, and its because of Democracy.... haha I've said it before, and I"ll say it again, irony is fun.  


I don't see why the budget would come into play
California repubs have already shown they have ZERO ability to compromise.  It was one rogue republican breaking ranks who got the recent budget passed.  California republicans have shown themselves to have no ability to compromise on a budget so what leverage do they have when it comes to redistricting?

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because
That is all they have. They will stop a redistricting that favors Democrats by completely stopping the budget from passing. As I've said, if you have nothing left, what do you have to lose. This is what Californian Republicans in the state house do all the time. They bitch and whine until they get what they want because Democrats need a few of their votes to pass the budget. So as long as they have that bargaining chip, it gives them some power, and it might just be enough to get democrats in the state house to not push for partisan means.  

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they'll lose seats


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What seats are you referring to?
You mean repubs will lose CA state house and senate seats in 2010?  Because that's the feeling I'm getting from reading the blogs and looking at the demographics of some of the state legislative seats.  It seems CA rapublicans have far more marginal seats than we have.

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and they made a major
miscalculation on the budget fiasco. Its destroyed them as a statewide party, not that everything else they've done over the past two decades hasn't. They'll the two or three house seats we need and a senate seat.

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and they slashed and attacked that
guy as a traitor. He won't be in their party for long.

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A funny thing, though.
Democrats ended up winning every single statewide office in California in 2002, bucking the Republican trend of the rest of the country. Though of course we all know what would happen in the next year.

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Would have happened in 2006 too
If it wasn't for Arnold pretending to be a moderate and the un-electable Bustamante getting the Dem nomination for some other office and losing big in the general.

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And Davis won in 2002
mostly because he was not the Republican nominee, ultra-conservative Bill Simon. Had ex-L.A. Mayor Richard Riordan won the nomination, he would be in Arnold's place.

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Davis gave the race to Simon
its just amazing that California Republicans time and again forsake the moderate or liberal Republican for a hard right conservative. That'll be Steve Poizner's fate. How did a Republican ever get elected mayor of LA though? A tough on crime platform?

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I'm still waiting on Tom McClintock
If he does run I could see him winning the primary and gettign squashed in the general.  He's delusional enough to think he can win.

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Yeah, pretty much.
Riordan ran on "tough on crime" and "business-friendly" platforms. It also helped that the election was in the aftermath of the Rodney King incident.

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Horrible game of musical chairs that year
The Mercury News had a great graphic pointing out which Democratic officeholders in Sacramento were termed-out and running for some other statewide job.  At least 3 of the 7 highest statewide candidates fit this category.

I was ticked off enough by this creature-of-Sacramento behavior to vote for the Green candidate in each of these cases.


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why's it their fault
that the state of Cali has term-limits and it's naturally the game of politics, musical chairs of moving up and around because people like being politicians, its the job they've come to known and do and they will run for higher office to keep it going.

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Is there any evidence things will be different from 2002?
Have any of the state's top Dems suggested that they will do anything other than another incumbent protection map?  Because unless there is evidence to the contrary, I am going to assume that the CA Dems will take the path of least resistance again.

One big warning sign to me is that the frontrunner to be the next head of the CA Dem Party is John Burton, a former state senate leader who played a big role in creating the 2002 map.  I strongly doubt he will be pushing the Dems in Sacramento to be more aggressive with their maps.


In 2000
We picked up quite a few republican seats.  That was the big reason behind the protection plan in 2002.  There is a grand total of ONE Democratic seat (McNerney) in need of protection this time, barring further pickups in 2010.  Hence there won't be any seats that need protecting in 2012.  Why would Dems pass an incumbent protection plan if nothing is in need of protecting?  

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big difference
I laid out the situation that led to that plan. We had about a dozen new seats from the 1990s in what was still then many marginal areas. They shored some people up then saw the state get far more liberal than they expected, and it was a different political environment for State Dems, its the opposite this time. The 2002 map is a flaw of 1990s thinking when it comes to California politics. The state has changed indefinitely since then.

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What worries me
is that that 1990s thinking you mention hasn't really left the minds of those in charge of the California Democratic Party.  

I have a generally unfavorable view of the CA Dems' political killer instinct from personal experience; the Obama landslide here should've led to much bigger gains in the legislature than we got, and the Prop. 8 debacle is due in large part to the inept political consultants that our side is filled with.

Plus, too many Sacramento politicians care more about their own petty rivalries than about helping the state party as a whole.  One example is Fran Florez's upset loss in the 30th Assembly district because the incumbent Democrat, with whom Florez's son was feuding, supported the Republican.  

A more relevant example is Senate leader John Burton allowing what could've been a safe Dem seat around Santa Barbara to be drawn into Tom McClintock's senate seat because he was feuding with the Democratic front-runner for the seat.  We lost that seat by less than 1000 votes in November, and if you've followed the crazy CA budget negotiations, you know how much not having that seat cost us.

While you are right that the state has changed a lot over the past decade, I'm not convinced minds of those drawing the maps has changed all that much.


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i thought I read we won that seat by 24
votes? How would someone as batshit crazy as McClintok get elected to any kind of moderate district?

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Weak challenger
McClintock got elected to a more conservative 19th district in 2000, then redistricting caused the old Democratic-leaning 18th district (Santa Barbara and half of Ventura counties) to be split in two and given to two Republicans.  McClintock's district got bluer but he was still the incumbent and I believe it was still slightly Republican-leaning.  Had the state Dems aggressively challenged him they might've knocked him off right then (it was clear to anyone even then that he was only interested in using the senate seat as a springboard for higher office), but that would require the state Dems to be aggressive for once, and that concept is totally foreign to them.

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how did they get into large majorities
without being agressive?

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Look at the party shifts in the last decade
Democratic strength has grown significantly since 2000, but there has been almost no shift in the legislature or congressional delegation since then.  We picked up a few seats in November, but that has more to do with Obama than anything the CDP did and it was meager compared to what it should've been.  We did defeat Pombo in 2006, but that victory belongs more to the Sierra Club and other environmental groups; had the CDP been leading the charge, Pombo would likely still be in office.

I get the feeling that lots of people in the party are comfortable with what they have and don't feel the need to compete on Republican turf.  For example, the 15th state senate district on the central coast should have been a big target in 2008, since Democrats have a 41-35 voter registration advantage and Obama won the district big time.  Democrats didn't even bother to qualify a candidate against him, and a Democrat running as an independent got 37% of the vote.  Dem leaders decided they'd rather court his vote by not challenging him, and Maldonado basically got to hold the state budget process hostage until the Dem leadership gave into his many demands.


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well is their any sight of change
in the near future? And at least he commission couldn't possibly screw up state legislature districts any more than Democrats. Why are they so complacent when they know conservative Republicans will hold up any measure they put forth? What was teh one seat then that we picked up by 24 votes this year? Cause we did pick up a Senate Seat.

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You must be thinking of the 19th Senate District
We narrowly lost that one because the Dem ran a poor campaign.

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Regarding the 19th,
it's possible we were leading on election night, but we lost by less than 900 votes.  The Dem candidate didn't concede until the end of November.

We didn't gain any seats in the CA Senate last year.  Results are here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

What worries me about the commission is that, if they focus on compactness and ignore partisan composition, you'll inadvertently end up with a bunch of super-Democratic districts and a bunch of moderately Republican-leaning districts, which would result in Democratic strength being diluted and preventing us from ever getting that 2/3rd majority we need to ever govern the state well.

I'm looking at Minnesota as an example: I think their congressional redistricting was nonpartisan, and we have Democrats crammed into the super-blue 4th and 5th, and surrounded by a bunch of moderately Republican seats.  The result is a state that went for Obama by double digits (and that's voted Dem in every election for 30-something years) has a majority of seats with a Republican PVI.


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actually it had two swing districts
two very democratic districts, two Republican leaning, and one Democratic leaning district and one toss up.

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Minnesota
Two Dem seats (the 4th, D+13 and the 5th, D+23), three Republican seats (2nd, 6th and 7th at R+4, R+7 and R+5), one moderately Dem seat (7th, D+3) and two swing seats (1st and 3rd, R+1 and R+0).

Given that the state as a whole is about D+3, that means there are 5 seats that are significantly more Republican than the state as a whole (and all of them more Republican than the nation as a whole), only 2 seats more Democratic than the state as a whole, and 1 seat that is right on the edge.

We are lucky to have Collin Peterson and Tim Walz, but the districts are much more Republican than they have any right to be because Dems are packed into the two Twin Cities seats, and that's what I'm worried may happen in California.


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Oberstar's district
is more reliably Democratic than you give it credit for, and several of those districts are moderate and in areas trending Dem.

This plan is actually better than the Republican plan which wanted to consolidate the most Democratic parts of St. Paul and Minneapolis into one district and split up the rest. It would have been a gerrymander to split everything up and spread the Democratic votes. MN-01 is actually trending Dem because of Rochester county and other areas going hardcore dem. as is MN-03.

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Id say Pombo's ties to Abramoff
Hurt him a great deal in the district more than anything else.  This wasnt my district at the time but I helped out on the ground the last week or so of the campaign and found a very real, visceral disgust with Pombo.  We would try to explain McNerney's cred to them and why he deserved to be elected, but most of them said, literally, "I dont care who he is as long he is not Pombo."  That got folks out more than anything.  His name was toxic in the district by October.  Also, dont forget about Bubba getting on the stump at the last minute for McNerney.  That night was crowded, rowdy, alot of fun and very effective for getting some of the more rural moderates in the northern parts of the district out to vote for McNerney.  

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Oh for sure, Pombo shot himself in the foot
and the corruption angle was one huge weakness that he got hammered on.  But despite all that, I don't think the election would've been competitive if the environmental groups hadn't decided to focus their energies on taking him out.  They weakened him up a bit and showed state and national Dems that Pombo was vulnerable, which is why all that money and aid started flowing to McNerney in the last few weeks and months.

Remember, labor groups like Unite Here and the National Air Traffic Controllers gave tens of thousands to Pombo's reelection effort, and Pombo was in no way a friend of labor.  Corruption may have been the message that got to voters, but absent the green groups, the state party would've never put much effort into driving that message home.  That's why so much of the post-election talk on both sides gave the green groups credit for Pombo's scalp, and it was credit well-deserved.


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big difference
I laid out the situation that led to that plan. We had about a dozen new seats from the 1990s in what was still then many marginal areas. They shored some people up then saw the state get far more liberal than they expected, and it was a different political environment for State Dems, its the opposite this time. The 2002 map is a flaw of 1990s thinking when it comes to California politics. The state has changed indefinitely since then.

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As a Californian
who studies California elections closely, I agree with ArkDem that the reasons why we had incumbent protection in 2002 were because of the gains we had made in 2000, that we had a lot of Democrats in possibly vulnerable areas, and the shaky hold the we had on other offices. So barring 2000-style gains in 2010, the map in 2012 will likely not be incumbent-protection.

And a quick note on CA-46: While the district does have part of L.A. County in it, it takes the more conservative parts on the South Bay, especially the Palos Verdes Peninsula. Bush actually won the L.A. part of CA-46 in 2000 and 2004 before Obama won it with 52%.

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That was the section of LA County that once upon a time
made Jane Harman's district competitive, yes?

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Right.
Here's what the 1990 CA-36 looked like: http://i40.tinypic.com/e0235y.gif

To protect Harman, they gave the conservative parts to Crazy Dana.

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The other vulnerable Dems
besides the 5 freshmen were Ellen Tauscher in CA-10 who won with 53%, Cal Dooley (replaced by Jim Costa in '04) in CA-20 who won with 52%, Lois Capps in CA-22 (now CA-23) who won with 53%, and Jane Harman in CA-36 who won with 48%.

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CA-46
An ex-boyfriend of mine lived in Rancho Palos Verdes, and talking to his neighbors felt like visiting deep red Texas (or at least Orange County).

I've been working on my own fantasy redistricting map of California (inspired by the wonderful people on this site), and I deal with poor Dana in large part by giving all of Palos Verdes to Richardson, and putting some big chunks of Long Beach in the 46th.  I think most people would put the peninsula back in the 36th, but I don't want to give Jane Harman an excuse to go back to her conservative (more conservative than she should be, anyway) ways.

(and I say poor Dana because I have a little bit of pity, mixed with a lot of amusement, for how often people think he is a she; there's a letter floating somewhere online addressed to 'Congresswoman Rohrabacher'.)


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I too am working on my own redistricting of California
It is a bit complicated, as the counties and major cities have updated census numbers, while a lot of cities and towns have only their 2000 populations up.

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what i've done
is minus out the city populations from both the the 2000 and 2007 county numbers, find out what percentage of the 2000 county population a city has and then multiply by what is left of the 2007 county populations.  This is basically finding the perentage a city's poplulation makes up out of a county and then multiplying it to find the growth.  This assumes even population growth so you have to use some common sense to know where the growth is.

This has been easy to do with Minnesota as since it is on a much smaller population scale, the amount of error in this totalled up is going to be incredibly low since a lot of mine is combining counties while Cali has a lot of population in each county to work with, making the errors you'll make by doing this really add up to maybe cause some problems, so this may not work too well for you.


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That's what I was thinking.
And some counties such as L.A. County have a lot of areas that are not very fast-growing, as well as some areas especially in the north that did grow fast this decade. It also doesn't help that the county itself is big enough for 12-13 districts in that one county alone.

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