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VT-Gov 2010 Racine's in, Douglas proposes changing school funding, Spaulding will decide soon.

by: doug_tuttle

Fri Jan 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM EST


During the 2008 gubernatorial season democrats waited until May to field a candidate.  This cycle, Vermont democrats stepped up with Doug Racine announcing that he would take on Jim Douglas come 2010.  Racine was a former Lite governor who lost to Douglas in 2002, 47-44.  

"Racine, 56, who expects to return as chairman of the Senate Health & Welfare Committee, said he is focused on the 2009 legislative session. He said he informed several Douglas administration officials Monday of his plans to run for governor and that he doesn't expect it to affect his work with them."

There have also been rumblings of stronger candidates mounting a challenge against Douglas.  

"Several high-profile Democrats are considering a run, amid pressure from party activists to get an early start. State Treasurer Jeb Spaulding said he's still considering a run and expects to decide within a few months."

Spaulding has been Treasurer since 2002, is the president of the national association of state treasurers, and was a state senator from1995-2001.  This would make him one of the strongest candidates to challenge Douglas since Racine's first challenge back in 2002.  He will decide within three months.  
The race is also complicated by Douglas' recent proposals to deal with the recession.  The biggest issue will be scrapping act 68, the way that Vermonters pay for education, without offering any sort of alternative way to fund education.  

"If local school boards want to spend more per pupil than they are doing in the current year, any additional funds would have to be paid for entirely by local residential property taxpayers. Income sensitivity provisions - under which homeowners pay school taxes based on income, not property values - would not apply."

Reopening this can of worms could potentially weaken Governor Douglas' popularity.  Normally Douglas survives by not doing or proposing anything too controversial, then benefits from the independence of the electorate and the left far left split.  A violent education battle could be the issue that makes Douglas vulnerable.
If Douglas is indeed weakened by the education battle or seems weak, then Spaulding will most likely join the fray, as could sec of state Deb Markowitz.  If however Douglas runs for re-election, and doesn't appear vulnerable, Racine will have the nomination all to himself, and will most likely face a three way race with Anthony Pollina.  Pollina was the progressive turned independent who beat Gaye Symington in the 2008 election.  
If Douglas retires, the election will quickly become bedlam.  The Vermont political scene is constipated, with every statewide official, as well as many aspiring state senators and mayors stuck.  Should Douglas retire, plethora of positions open up.  The governors seat will free up first, then the lite govs seat, if lite gov Brian Dubie runs for governor, or retires.  From there, Markowitz and Spaulding will run hopefully for those two positions, or will primary each other for the governor's seat.  This will open the treasurer's position and secretary of state.  If Douglas retires, Racine will most likely lose the primary battle, and democrats will be favored for all of the aforementioned positions.  There are some wildcards however.

1. Leahy retirement/Death:  in his seventies, Leahy could decide to retire in 2010 giving Douglas and Dubie the option to run for senate.  They passed on the open seat in 2006, but both knew they couldn't beat Bernie Sanders.  For the democrats the only dems who could win would be Markowitz, Spaulding and current House rep Peter Welch.  Welch is popular, but Douglas and Dubie have been on the statewide scene the longest.  This would be his only chance to become a senator as Bernie will almost certainly run for re-election in 2012.  By the time an open seat comes up in 2016 or 2018 Welch will be 67-70. 67-70 Year olds do not run for freshman terms in the senate unless they know they can't win.  By 2016/2018 Welch will have seniority and will probably be looking towards either a good committee assignment, house leadership role, or cabinet position depending on who wins in 2016.   With Markowitz and Spaulding, who knows?

2.  Howard Dean returns to Vermont politics:  there haven't been any rumblings of this, but with the whole "Obama is dissing Dean Meme" it's possible that dean will return to Vermont either to run for senator if there's a retirement or governor again.  I put the chances in the low single digits, but were it to happen, it would change everything.  

3.  Further economic downturns.  Who knows how this could affect the race, but it probably will.

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I think it looks pretty clear Dean will run for something at some point


There's isn't much for him other than Governor
Unless Leahy were to retire from the Senate sometime soon, which I doubt.  I'm sure he could easily get elected Governor again if he wanted.  Any idea if Dean can run for another 4-terms (8 years) if he wants to?

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Bernie is no spring chicken either


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From Leahy Office
I work for Senator Leahy's campaign and wanted to clarify a few things.

First, Senator Leahy is not in his 70's but is 68.  He was first elected at age 34 and recently became Vermont's longest serving United States Senator.

Second, I can tell you Senator Leahy has every intention of continuing to serve Vermonters in the United States Senate.

Daily Kos has a post about a recent poll done by Research 2000 showing very high favorables for Senator Leahy and that he would beat Gov Douglas in a head to head by over 20 points.  Their conclusion:  Leahy is a sure bet for re-election and Douglas will stick to the Governor's Office.

Senator Leahy is going to be serving Vermont and America for a while.

Larry


And Batman
I hope to see him again in the third Chris Nolan Batman movie, whenever that is.

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my bad
no offense to the good senator, i just didn't look through his site well enough.  considering how much he enjoys the judiciary ctte i don't see him retiring before 2016.  ps, great cameo in the dark knight.  :P

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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Wait... what?
He did a cameo in The Dark Knight?  I've seen the film like 10 times and didn't notice him.  Where in the movie was he?

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The Joker gets in his face at the party about two thirds thru


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Hah
Now I remember.  Didn't even hit me till now.  

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You have no idea how sad people thought I was for pointing him out!!!


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No way
It's only common knowledge to know who the Senators of tiny northeastern states are.  Your friends must be living under a rock.

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"We're not afraid of scum like you!"
"Oh, you should be."

Or something like that.


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Ya
Then Joker said something like "You remind me of my father.  I hated my father."  And went into a diatribe.  

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But:
The actual line that Leahy said was: "We're not intimidated by you thugs."

Leahy happens to be a good friend of mine. We went to the same small college in Vermont.


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What he should have said to Joker
"If Dick Cheney doesn't scare me you sure as hell don't."

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Well the obvious retort to that would have been...
..."Go **** yourself!"

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Trivia about Leahy
He is the only Democrat to represent Vermont in the US Senate.  (Not including the pre-Jackson Democratic-Republican Party)

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

In case that's not clear
That's in the entire history of the state since 1790 - 1 Democratic Senator.

28, Unenrolled, MA-08

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And another amazing bit of trivia
Until 1992, the only time Vermont voted Democratic presidentially was 1964. Yes, it didn't even go for FDR!

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And:
Replying to this comment, the only two states that did not go for FDR during his 2nd reelection campaign in 1936 were Vermont and Maine. Roosevelt's campaign manager wistfully remarked afterwards that "as Maine goes, so goes Vermont."

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Right
That's a play on the old, "As Maine goes, so goes the nation" line. As I'm sure many SSP'ers are aware, until 1957, Maine held its gubernatorial election in September, not November, which meant that the party that won in September often indicated national partisan trends. I've always thought that was interesting.

But back to Vermont trivia, since that's what we were talking about. Besides the 1936 election highlighting the Republican nature of Vermont, it was one of only two states to be won by incumbent President Taft in 1912.

The other state? Utah, of course!

Ah, trivia. One of my five favorite things in the universe. (I promise, the other four are far more exciting.)


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and 1 socialist


Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Could
either of them potentially win the Progressive Party's backing or scare off a PP candidate? Beacuse as long as the center-left of Vermont is split between the two parties it doesn't matter.

How about just letting the PP have a go?
Would a lot of Democrats desert the ticket if Vermont Dems endorsed a PP candidate for governor? It's just that it seems to me that a) it's psychologically easier for PP members to throw the election to the Republicans, crying "a pox on both your houses!" than for Democrats to do the same and b) neither the Democrats nor the PP are large enough to beat the Republicans on their own.

Some sort of I go-you go system, where they alternate between Democratic and Progressive candidates for each statewide office every other cycle, might make a bit of sense, although I suspect that there are enough egos to forbid that.


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in a word
yes.  they're surprisingly stubborn about that.  there's talk of the dems voting for republican wright in the burlington march mayoral race just to defeat progressive mayor bob kiss

Top ten signs you're an SSPer #1: your favorite song is "Panic At Tedisco" and no one understands what you mean.

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