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CO-Sen: Salazar to Interior

by: DavidNYC

Mon Dec 15, 2008 at 7:24 PM EST


Apparently, it's confirmed:

A transition official for President-elect Barack Obama says Colorado Sen. Ken Salazar will be named Interior Secretary later this week.

The appointment will round out Obama's environment and energy team. He unveiled most of the team on Monday. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid pre-empting Obama's upcoming announcement.

This aide did just pre-empt Obama's announcement - the only thing anonymity does is possibly protect his or her sorry ass (unless this was one of those "intentional" leaks directed from on high). Whatever. I've already gone on record saying I'm not thrilled with this choice - I would have much preferred Rep. Raul Grijalva - but that's neither here nor there for the purposes of SSP.

Gov. Bill Ritter, a Dem, gets to pick Salazar's replacement. The seat, which was up in 2010 anyway, might now see see a more competitive race than it otherwise would have, especially if Ritter picks a caretaker. Who do you like to replace Salazar, and who might face off against his replacement in two years?

UPDATE: Some names supposedly in circulation, according to the Denver Post:

Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper
Rep. John Salazar
Rep. Ed Perlmutter
Rep. Diana DeGette
Denver Public Schools Superintendent Michael Bennet
Outgoing state House Speaker Andrew Romanoff
Former U.S. Attorney Tom Strickland
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Great pick
Ritter should appoint either Andrew Romanoff or Cary Kennedy. Colorado can't be served wrong by either of these terrific leaders.

I think Andrew is the most likely choice, in all honesty. There are so many possible Republicans that could run though...I'll diary on that later this week.  


Do you think
Ritter could tap a Republican?

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umm.. how about no
Ritter is a Democrat, and from what I gather a pretty loyal one at that.  No chance he'd even consider such a thing.

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Comment.
One thing this does is gets rid of an unreliable Democrat in the Senate while keeping one in the House.  I don't want it to be John Salazar.  I'm inclined to like DeGette.

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DeGette is not viable
statewide. Think Mark Udall without the profile, fundraising ability, name sake, or campaigning ability. And, as far as I'm concerned Ken Salazar is a solid Democrat and will be a great Secretary of the Interior in a pick that will not immediately alienate any group.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Unfortunately, true
Most of these picks are Denver Dems.  I know many and am damn lucky to be represented by Rep. DeGette.  That said, her name recognition and base are not what they need to be.  I think she COULD fundraise, but when she's in as Democratic of a district as she is, she doesn't need to.  I do politely disagree about her profile, if by this you mean her body of work.  She has done quite a bit as a US Rep., and she has risen to one of the Chief Deputy Whips...yet another reason, she may not want to jump ship.  If by profile, you mean she's too liberal, you're probably right.

Furthermore, though Hank Brown was born in Denver, the last Denver-based politician sent to the Senate was possibly Floyd Haskell in 1972 or more likely John A. Carroll in 1957.  Wikipedia is sketchy on where Hart represented, but Troublesome Gulch is up in the mountains.

30, male, Democratic, CO-01


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Choices . . .
Perlmutter, DeGette, Hickenlooper.

All are fine by me. I have no knowledge of the others except John Salazar (NO! No ideological gain and then we risk a house seat)

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


hickenlooper
was considered the heavyweight even when ritter started running for governor.  i like the strongest candidate.  liberal congresspeople representing liberal districts don't give me a lot of confidence in any of these seats save New York.

He won 87 percent of the vote last election
Go Hickenlooper!

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Hick would be a good choice
Hickenlooper might make a very good choice, but read my post above about caution and Denver Dems in the Senate.  Another name overlooked might be Joan Fitzgerald.  I'd hoped she'd be available for Colorado SoS or AG, but then this pick occurred and set off an unnecessary scramble.  Color me not so happy.

30, male, Democratic, CO-01

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Ugh
Not the worst, but not too thrilled with this.

I'd be perfectly fine with it on whole if we get Hickenlooper or DeGette. I would be very unhappy if we got Salazar. Perlmutter would be a marginal improvement and I really don't know much about the rest.  


Perlmutter's actually been pretty liberal
and Degette would just be a terrible pick.

I'll take flames for this but I like this pick a lot more than Raul Grijalva. Less controversial, more expertise, a solid lifelong Democrat, a good conservationalist from an environmentally concerned state, and an expert in many of the issues facing such a position, but he's also a good politician and would be more of pragmatic and popular choice. Obama had two choices, I'm glad he made the more politically smart choice.  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus


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I'm fine with him
While I have a few problems with how Ken has voted in the Senate, he has been very solid on environmental issues. In fact, conservation was one of his main causes when he was CO AG and before that as state Natural Resources Director. Fine by me.

As for replacements, I'd be fine with Perlmutter, Hickenlooper, or Andrew Romanoff. Any of them would be good.


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Controversial?
Grijalva was supported by a 100 environmental groups.  The people who didn't like him were corporate or Republican.  Winning elections should have consequences.

The only plus is getting an unreliable vote out of the Senate.  Maybe he should pick Tom Carper for something.  Elected offices generally trump the appointed ones anyway.  Andrew Cuomo's stint as a cabinet member, for example, doesn't seem to get him much respect for possibly filling the Hillary Clinton vacancy.  I wouldn't take the job if I was Salazar unless I wanted a graceful way to avoid the elections in 2010.


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agreed
if I were a Senator, I wouldnt take a cabinet position unless it was SoS.

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State, Defense, Attorney General, maybe NSA or DNI
The Senate is very weak on the foreign policy / national security side, so if that's your interest it's more fun to be in the executive branch I think.  On the domestic policy side though the Congress is stronger, and the Senate in particular is stronger than most of the domestic Departments.  Interior is a pretty powerful post though, much better than EPA or HUD or HHS or USDA.

What this really says is that Salazar didn't like being a Senator.  Because he could have been a very powerful John Breaux-like dealcutter for a very long time if he had wanted to be.  I'm glad he's out of the Senate, to be replaced almost certainly by a more reliable Democrat.  I'll take Hickenlooper or Perlmutter over Salazar any day.

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08


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What ArkDem might be referring to
I think ArkDem is referring to the fact that Grijalva, at one point, had ties to a group (don't remember the name) that advocated the secession of part of the Southwest US and reunion with Mexico. It was discussed at great length on the thread that first mentioned Grijalva as SOI.

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thanks for defending
wingnuts would have had a field day over that, and there is the fact that Grijalva might be perceived as to liberal and could drive away business Democrats with his avid pro-environmentalism. I think Salzar's pcik is a good thing because its important to have balance, and have a balanced moderate, neogoiating person in this position, but that person also be a strong environmentalist and a pro-Business Democrat.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Ugh.
Every time someone uses the phrase "pro-Business Democrats", baby FDR cries.  

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Fuck the business Democrats


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The Raza Unida issue
Would definitely hurt him somewhat if he were, say, looking to run against McCain.  But considering that the SOI couldn't have less to do with any affiliation he had 30 years ago with a Mexican-American nationalist groups (and they were hardly advocating for the succession of the Southwest, at least not as the overall party platform; their are some wackos in every party.  I think the "worst" thing that they openly advocated was the US stole most of the Western United states from Mexico, and we should stop ignoring that), I don't see how it's even remotely fair to disqualify him on those grounds.

The Right Wing Noise Machineâ„¢ might try to jump on this issue if they had the opportunity, but they'll look for any chance to cause trouble with Obama's designees.  How do we know that Ken Salazar doesn't have any unpaid parking tickets?  I bet that that would demonstrate that he lacks moral fiber or integrity or something big and scary that will keep people from changing the radio dial from Rush Limbaugh?

22, Democrat, AZ-01
Peace. Love. Gabby.


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and he's so liberal
that he might rub many people the wrong way. So, Salazar is a compromise, though as I might point out to defend him, he is a solid Democrat on environmental issues, which are where he has been most loyal. I don't think Salazar thought he'd have any trouble running for reelection in 2010, if anything I think Salazar could be positioning himself to become Governor in 2014 or something.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Exactly
For whatever reason, the one area that Salazar has been relatively progressive is on the environment. His LCV ratings for the past 3 Congresses are as follows: 73, 78, and 85 (so he's been getting gradually greener). Plus, he has a lot of experience with this kind of thing; he ran CO's Dept of Natural Resources from 1990-1994 and was responsible for the state's Great Outdoors conservation program, which uses lottery proceeds to fund protection programs for wildlife, parks, trails, etc.

Sounds good to me. It's also worth noting that SquareState, which has been very critical of Ken, is supporting this appointment, not only b/c it paves the way for a more progressive senator but also puts Salazar where he's been the best.


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73, 78, 85
are those Snowe's numbers?  I want me SOI to have 100% ratings.  If you cant vote for the environment as a Democrat, then what can you vote for?

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Not always possible
Thing is, many Dems have constituencies that preclude them from always voting on behalf of the environment. Plus, the Interior Secretary must be someone who can work with both sides of natural resource questions. The all or nothing approach taken by some environmental groups caused numerous headaches for Carter's SOI Cecil Andrus, former and future Idaho Gov and staunch conservationist, when he tried to do some good but was criticized for not doing enough. Like it or not, Ken had some views/constituencies that were not always amenable to environmentalism (though very rarely).

Something else to note is that Salazar will now be taking orders from someone else (Obama) and have to implement HIS policies, not his own.


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Yes
West Virginia and Michigan come to mind as states where even Dems usually aren't great on the environment due to major industries within their state.

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From the primaries
The two who lost to incoming Congressman Jared Polis.  Former State Sen. President Joan Fitz-Gerald and Will Shafroth, who was with the Colorado Conservation Trust.

Hopefully the Senate pick is a liberal
Though it should be someone who can also win re-election such as Perlmutter and not someone like DeGette.  I know Ritter is anti-abortion.  Hopefully he won't make that a litmus-test.

Abortion issues almost never come up
except in court appointments and what Democrat is going to vote against Obama's court nominees? Even Zell Miller voted for Clinton's. Plus on other, very rare and mostly insignificant votes having to do with minor attempts at restriction on abortion, there are still four pro-choice Republicans as I count them; Specter, Collins, Gregg, and Snowe.  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Judd Gregg is VERY Pro-Life


Indepedent/Lean D. Dude.
All 5s (now TX-5; frmly VA-5 and CA-5)  


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how did he get eleted
in New Hampshire?

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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It was a different New Hampshire
It seems like NH has changed more quickly than just about anywhere.  Remember until John Sununu beat him in the 2002 primary, Bob Smith was the multi-term Senator from New Hampshire -- and he was the guy who left the Republican party for a few months because (among other reasons) he didn't think it was pro-life enough!

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Smith never won by much,
but Gregg has always seemed very popular.  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Like poster above me said about Gregg
Plus Murkowski and Hutchinson are both "moderately" pro-choice, whatever the hell they think that means.

22, Democrat, AZ-01
Peace. Love. Gabby.


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There's a term for anti-abortion people who use abortion as a litmus test
It's called "wingnut Republican".

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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There's another name
The Casey family.

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Interesting that Bob could get over that and endorse Obama then...


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Ya, well the younger Casey is better
Casey Jr. is better about supporting fellow Dems regardless of their stance on that one issue than his dad ever was.

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that's why his dad campaigned for Clinton
but was still denied a speaking slot at the Democratic national convention/  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Wasn't that debunked?
I'm fuzzy on this, but I thought the story that Casey was denied a speaking slot at the convention because he was anti-abortion was a right wing myth.  

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That's BS.
Bob Casey Sr. refused to endorse Clinton and was going to use his speaking slot as a way to bash the Democratic platform and candidate. The idea that the Democratic  Party refused to give him a speaking slot because of his pro-life views is absurd considering that there were several pro-life Democrats who spoke at the convention.

This stupid zombie myth will simply not die...


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Al Franken
Actually thoroughly debunks the myth in one of his books. It's actually quite funny how he does it.

But Kanamit is correct he wasn't allowed to speak because he refused to endorse Clinton at the time of the convention.

Zell Miller spoke at the convention didn't he?  We allowed pro-lifers to speak at the convention. I also think Harry Reid spoke at the convention, he's a pro-lifer too.


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there were also several Democrats
who weren't supporting the ticket, including Kathleen Brown. Casey refused to campaign but said "I support the Democratic ticket, period". Funny, I just read that Casey Sr. beat Ed Rendell in the Democratic primary in 1986, and Rendell beat Casey Jr. in 2002. Funny how things turnout.  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Several? All I can find in Google
is a bunch of unsourced right-wing websites that only mention Brown.

Assuming that we can trust these websites on their word, a) Brown was only a minor state official, her speech could skewer the ticket and no one would notice, and b) I highly doubt Brown said much beyond boilerplate Democratic issue stuff. She probably didn't even mention the ticket.

Frankly, Bob Casey, Sr. was just looking for attention. In politics, the difference between "I support the ticket" and "I support Bill Clinton for President" is huge. He and other conservative Democrats just want to feed this victimization-by-progressives complex they seem to have (as if Clinton was some wild-eyed radical).


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This was back in 1992 or 1996, right?


party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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1992
It was Clinton's first convention.

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So this means Mark Udall will be Sr. Sen
without ever being the Jr. Sen. So does that mean he has seniority over the other freshmen Senators this year? How does this work exactly?

New Mexico politics from the local perspective.

no extra seniority
The title of being the "Senior Senator" from a state is basically ceremonial, and doesn't bring any more seniority than any other new Senator being sworn in with the class of 08.



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In fact he might NOT be Senior
If Salazar resigns his seat before the end of the current session, the governor could replace him immediately and, therefore, give him more seniority over Udall.

Nominees usually wait until their confirmation to resign their seat, but sometimes the nominee will want to help his successor (and therefore his state) by giving him a leg up on the incoming freshman class.


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They changed the rules
to keep people from gaming the system like that a while ago.

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I think that only applies if the person's term was ending....
I think that only applies if the person's term was ending at the end of the session (ie thier replacement had already been elected to fill the full term).  This would be different since the appointment would not be for just a few days, but instead for two years.

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hah,
what a lucky guy. It also means Salazar will never have been Sr. Senator.

Udall would already have seniority over most freshman because they count house service to disinguish freshman senators, and cabinet service.  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus


[ Parent ]
Kerry's been in the senate 24 years
and he still hasn't gotten that title. Took Mikulski 20 years to get it, and Bingamen had to wait 26 years. Rockefeller is still waiting, as is Akaka.

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

[ Parent ]
Didn't that piss off Trent Lott?
I heard one of the (probably minor) reasons Lott resigned was because he was tired of being junior senator all the time.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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Longest wait:
Fritz Hollings, who was the junior Senator from South Carolina from his election in 1966 until January 2003, when Lindsey Graham took office.

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Actually there is one important part of being a senior senator
This only applies though if the senior and junior senators are from the same party, in which case the senior senator is the one in charge of recommending regional patronage appointments to the President.

For example, Patty Murray will be the one recommending all appointments to Obama for Washington state, with Maria Cantwell only offering advice to Patty's office. While Salazar would have been doing this for Colorado, now it will be Udall. That's pretty cool for a guy who hasn't served a day in the Senate yet.


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He will have more seniority than the incoming Freshmen, but not for that reason
The Senate uses a number of metrics to break seniority ties and second to only prior service in the senate is service in the House of Representatives, where both Udalls have been for ten years.  The tie goes Colorado, since more people live there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

28, Unenrolled, MA-08


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interesting Wikipedia article
Looking at it, also kind of interesting is that current Senator #80 Jim DeMint (R-SC) and #81 Tom Coburn (R-OK), both were former U.S. representatives (6 years). Therefore, their tie-breaker is the "Population of state based on the most recent census when the senator took office".

But look: South Carolina 26th in population (2000) and Oklahoma 27th in population (2000). It's possible that after the 2010 census those states might switch their spots in the population list. So in that event, if both of those 2 guys get re-elected, I assume their seniority would have to switch as well.


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Doubt it
I doubt both scenarios will happen.  South Carolina is growing at a decent pace, if I remember correctly.  Plus, I would assume that the seniority based on state population is based on population at the time of joining the Senate.

EDIT: I'm right. Number ten: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

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FIRST QUESTIONS FIRST
What is Governor Ritter's approval rating?  Has he been involved in any scandal?  How much does the state legislature hate him?  How much do the people of Colorado hate him?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

From what I gather
He's popular overall.  From what I've seen from SUSA and Rasmussen ratings he's always over 55%, usually 60% or so in approval.  He took some flak from unions early in his tenure, but apparently reversed course and is now good friends with them.

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Yeah
Ritter pissed off a few people by signing an executive order essentially unionizing all state employees. Most people are over it, but it led to a ballot measure this cycle that would have decimated unions across the state...thankfully "Right to Work for Less" failed.

Ritter is fairly popular, last I saw he was about 55/30 approve/disapprove. He's not Brian Schweitzer, but he's not bad.


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The Open thread is far away, and I don't have time to make a diary
Hat tip to SG: http://www.wral.com/news/state...

Brad Miller is not interested in NC-Sen.  Scratch him off our candidate list.  

North Carolina Rep. Brad Miller said Monday he's not interested in challenging U.S. Sen. Richard Burr, scratching his own name from an early list of prospects as the search for candidates begins.


Good lord
Please, not a sitting U.S. House Rep.  No more special elections. NO MORE NO MORE NO MORE NO MORE. headdesk

Male, 23, DC-At Large

Seriously?
DE-Sen, NY-Sen and IL-05.  That's three, none of which are likely to flip.  Calm down man.  

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Thirteen in '07-'08... close to a high watermark for special elections in a single cycle
Add this to the fact that I've just wrapped an independent study on special elections (about which there is, quite literally, next to no scholarship), and the result is that I'm pretty well burned out on them.

And let us not forget all the delightful concern trolling over Mark Kirk in the as-yet hypothetical Illinois Senate race!

Honestly, is it any surprise that some of us have been conditioned to be in permanent freakout mode?

Male, 23, DC-At Large


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Hickenlooper
Best political name, except for Lizard People.

Looms as an uncontroversial pick to move this seat to the left... 87% can't be called "out of the mainstream" with a straight face.


I bet Theodore Terbolizard's true allegiance
is to the Lizard People.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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I don't know. He has some real competition.
Elwyn Tinklenburg
Michael Jackson
Charlie Brown
Carl Mumpower (sounds like a super mom from England)

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Those are all good
but everytime I read the Mayor's I think of Edmund Kockenlocker of "The Miracle of Morgan's Creek".

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Hickenlooper
There was a senator named Hickenlooper from Iowa years ago.

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Very true
Bourke B. Hickenlooper (R-IA): Lieutenant Gov (1939-1942), Governor (1943-1944), US Senator (1945-1969).  One of the most conservative and isolationist politicians at the time, he hated Everett Dirksen and possibly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act just because Dirksen had collaborated with Northern Democrats on it.

30, male, Democratic, CO-01

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still say best political name is
Dick Swett (D-NH)

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Still think it's a dumb move
Both on political and substantive grounds.  And Ritter will probably pick John Salazar.  So we'll end up with a Salazar, but without a greatly reduced advantage of incumbancy.  Dumb move.

It will NOT be Salazar
He is thrilled to get his seat on Appropriations. He loves the power that comes with, and as a member of the Committee, arguably becomes the most powerful Colorado politician in Congress (now that Diana's mentor Dingell lost his committee chair).

I wouldn't be surprised if John comes out in the next two days with a "thanks, but no thanks" release. Watch out for it.


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As a note, the Denver Post list isn't the one being chatted up around here
From what I've heard, the list looks a little more like this (and it's not the same as I thought yesterday):

Speaker Andrew Romanoff
Speaker-designate Terrance Carroll
State Sen. Gail Schwartz
Treasurer Cary Kennedy
Rep. Ed Perlmutter

I'd like to throw out a dream candidate though (even though I would LOVE Andrew or Cary to take this seat, as I've said):

State Senator Jennifer Viega. She's a progressive civil rights lawyer from just outside of Denver. Been in the state legislature for a decade. Hispanic female, which would be a first in the Senate. First openly gay member of the state leg. Great on poverty issues and has good ties with the business community.

I know it'll never happen, but a guy can dream.


Not a bad list
I'm familiar with Romanoff, Carroll, Kennedy, and Perlmutter, but who is Gail Schwartz and why is she being touted?

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State Senator from the Western Slope
She's from the Gunnison/Durango area, and she's a rancher. She was a prominent supporter of Ritter's recent attempt to end severance tax loopholes for oil companies in CO (Amendment 58). She's big on education policy, having been a member of the Board of Regents for CU, but she's got a lot of experience in rural issues, land use and water rights, just like Ken.

I think she's being talked up as a way to keep Colorado's prominence on water issues while also putting a woman and an out-stater in the Senate.

I don't know how big the chatter is around her, but it exists.


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Jen's not outside Denver
Guys,

Jen Veiga's about as far from "just outside Denver" as you can get.  SD 31 starts just north of the University of Denver and moves north nearly into downtown. It covers West Wash Park, just west of Cheesman Park, and Six Flags.  It then, admittedly shoots up towards eastern Westminster, but it also has or almost has Capitol Hill.

30, male, Democratic, CO-01


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I know where SD 31 is
It's my district, and I live in Cap Hill. But I thought she lived right outside of Denver metro, which I was apparently wrong about, she does in fact live inside of Denver.

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Just white-paged Jen's address
She's at Curtis and Colfax...just off the Denver Center for the Performing Arts...easy walk (or light-rail) to the Capitol. That said, she's an awesome legislator--one of my very favorites in Colorado (I'm in SD 32 just to the south) and, if, by bad luck, Ritter plucks DeGette from her seat, I'd love to see a US Rep Jennifer Veiga.  I think she'd also have problems beyond her residence and her too-progressive-for-all-of-Colorado record.  I can't see an very-out State playing well outside of the Denver-Boulder-ski county corridor.  The Denver metro suburbs, Pueblo, and other areas of Dem strength would be difficult to pull in.

What about Joan Fitz-Gerald as a replacement for Salazar?

30, male, Democratic, CO-01


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Joan has said she's retiring from politics
I like Joan a lot, and supported and donated to her in the CD 2 race against Jared (Will cost her that race, IMO). I think the Senate seat would be too good to pass up, but she and Ritter aren't particularly close, and she doesn't have a constituency that he could please by choosing her. He's close with Romanoff and Hick, and Kennedy, Baca or Pena would put a woman or Hispanic (or both) in the Senate.

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Yeah, but...
God, I hate patronage.  Don't get me wrong.  I love Denver...alot.  It's my hometown and I only left it for the four years of my undergraduate education, and I'm back now.  But do any Denver Democrat have a good chance?  I'm thinking not so much.  I mean a "Boulder Liberal" label is bad enough (even if Mark wasn't even FROM Boulder), but a "Denver Liberal" would be under that much more scrutiny.  That's what I was asking about Joan.  What about Isgar?

30, male, Democratic, CO-01

[ Parent ]
Watch out for Republicans pulling the "Chicago Liberal" trick these days
It happens to every major city I'd say (even SLC to the rest of Utah), but it might be worse because we have a (quite un-)Democratic governor who's radioactive and loving it.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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