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The Other New Senator in the 111th Congress

by: Crisitunity

Mon Jun 09, 2008 at 4:39 PM EDT


There's going to be a healthy amount of turnover in the Senate; even if the Democrats don't pick up any seats in 2008 (OK, OK, you can stop laughing now), there will still be at least five new faces because of the retirements of Warner, Allard, Domenici, Hagel, and Craig. However, there's also going to be at least a sixth new face in the Senate, because, barring something really weird happening, either Barack Obama or John McCain is going to be the next President in January, opening up one more seat to be filled by appointment until 2010 (the next general election, but also when Obama and McCain's terms would end anyway). Unlike the rest of the Senate races, that's one race we can't handicap, because we have no idea who the candidates are, and there's going to be only one voter: either Rod Blagojevich or Janet Napolitano.

This is in the news today because Robert Novak is alleging that Nancy Pelosi has been talking up Rahm Emanuel as the replacement senator. (This being Novak, the safe response might be to assume the exact opposite of what he's saying. Just consider it a conversation starter.) He described Pelosi as "enthusiastic about Emanuel's elevation to the Senate." (Although she might be most enthusiastic about getting one-half of the Hoyer/Emanuel tag-team off her back.)

It seems unlikely to me that Blagojevich would pick Emanuel, though, because Emanuel doesn't help Blagojevich with either of his competing needs: the pressure to appoint another African-American so that number of black senators doesn't drop back down to 0, and the desire to move his strongest intra-party competition to Washington and out of his hair. (It also might seem a demotion for Emanuel, who is at the #4 slot in the House as Conference chair, and given his age, a likely candidate for Speaker in the 2020s.)

Probably the most frequently mentioned African-American contender for the position is Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. Jackson is young (41), he's progressive (near the top of the House, with a Progressive Punch score of about 99), he's been an effective Obama surrogate, he'd leave behind as safely-Democratic a House seat as can be imagined, and he has name recognition.

Other mentioned African-American contenders include Rep. Bobby Rush (who's been in IL-01 for many years and is 62), Sec. of State Jesse White (a well-liked longtime fixture in Illinois politics, but 76 years old), State Senate President Emil Jones (who's a key Blagojevich ally in the legislature, but who's 72), and State Senator James Claybourne (who's only 44, but unlike these other contenders, not a Chicagoan (he's from Belleville, next to E. St. Louis) - and with Dick Durbin already senator, a second Downstate senator is unlikely). One other possibility I saw mentioned was giving Carol Mosely-Braun her old seat back, although given her inability to hold the seat in the first place, that doesn't seem likely.

The other camp consists of people Blagojevich might like to deport from Illinois by promoting them: Attorney General Lisa Madigan and Comptroller Dan Hynes. It's unclear whether Blagojevich intends to run for a third term in 2010 (he's eligible to do so, although given his ethical problems and low approval ratings, it seems he's likely to head for the exits at that point), but if he does, he's likely to face primary opposition from one or both of them. And even if he doesn't run, these two have oversight of his activities and have been constant thorns in his side (and, with one of them in Washington, could then be replaced with one of his own appointees).

Whether or not Blagojevich is an obstacle, either Madigan or Hynes is likely to be the next governor of Illinois. Madigan is 41; Hynes is 39. They're both well-connected to Illinois machine politics (Madigan's dad is state house speaker Michael Madigan; Hynes's dad is former Cook County assessor Thomas Hynes.) One consideration is that Hynes has shown more desire to go to Washington rather than aiming for governor; Hynes ran for the Democratic Senate nomination in 2004, finishing second to Obama in the primary.

Finally, there are several other names who get mentioned but don't fit into either category: Rep. Jan Schakowsky from IL-09 (she's also one of the most progressive members of the House and wields a fair amount of leadership clout there, but she's 64 and has some ethical baggage associated with fraud charges against her husband Robert Creamer), and Illinois Veterans Affairs Dept. Director Tammy Duckworth of IL-06 fame (she brings diversity and Iraq War vet status to the table, but has never actually won an election before). And it can't be discounted entirely that Blagojevich might appoint himself, since a Senate seat would give him a new career without term limits... although he'd face the same electoral liabilities in 2010 facing Senate re-election as if he were running again for governor.

Turning to Arizona, some of you might be licking your chops, anticipating another Democratic senator, appointed by Janet Napolitano, as the consolation prize in the event of a McCain victory, but that's not the case. Arizona is one of several states (along with Alaska, Hawaii, Utah, and Wyoming) where the appointed interim senator must be of the same party as the departing senator.

This becomes an interesting strategic decision for Napolitano, though: does she take the easy way out and appoint the Republican who's at the top of the queue? That would most likely be Jan Brewer, who is Secretary of State and, since Arizona has no Lt. Governor, the state's #2 person. However, it could be one of the current representatives, most likely John Shadegg, who has more seniority and a higher profile than Trent Franks or Jeff Flake.

Does she appoint the Republican who, ideologically, is likely to suck the least (moderate ex-Rep. Jim Kolbe, who was in AZ-08 for many years, comes to mind), who would be vulnerable to a right-wing primary effort but difficult in a general election?

Or does she try to game the system by appointing the Republican who would provide two years of dislikable right-wing insanity and then an easy opponent in the 2010 general election (when, not coincidentally, Napolitano herself would be term-limited and looking for a new job)? That could be ex-Rep. and professional loudmouth J.D. Hayworth, or, for maximum comedic effect, former State Rep. Randy Graf. (It still probably wouldn't include current Rep. Rick Renzi, who's likely to consider 2009 a good year if it involves staying out of prison.)

Related posts:
Whom Might Blagojevich Appoint? (from August 2007)

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Jan Schakowsky
Nuff Said that's who I want. Why should Emanuel get the seat he was the only democrat in the Illinois delegation who didn't endorse Obama, I know he's in leadership but still.

Schakowsky is awesome and would be ok to defend the seat.


Black women?
Are there any besides Mosley-Braun with any prominence?

Good question
As far as I can tell, there are three African-American women in the Illinois state senate. I haven't heard any of them mentioned as likely contenders in anything I've read, but Jacqueline Collins has a fairly impressive resume.

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if an appointment from Arizona
I would really hope Gov. Napolitano would name Jim Kolbe.
The Republcans would hate it. He's retired once, so he might not try to keep the seat for a full term of his own; and, if he does, the Republican apparatus would not back him with maximum enthusiasm.

The best-qualified AZ GOP Congressman is probably Jeff Flake, so I hope she wouldn't pick him. He'd be difficult to dislodge from the Senate, and I doubt we'd have much of a shot at the House seat he'd be giving up, either. He's also quite young, and might serve virtually forever.

There's a Goldwater grandson, isn't there? Failed at something last cycle?

And then, of course, fully qualified to serve in the Senate, where he's served before... Dan Quayle lives in Arizona now.
The drawback to Quayle is that he's relatively young, no doubt would run again, might serve as many as two full terms before we could get rid of him again.  

Half the population believes our electoral system is broken. The other half believes it is fixed. Wakeuplaughing.com  


Kolbe's other problem
He's openly gay.  Probably not a plus with Republicans in Arizona.

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Any of those candidates
would be easy for popular Governor Napolitano to beat in a general election. Flake is unknown outside of northwest Arizona, and he's highly conservative. He is the strongest, except maybe for Shadegg or Hayworth. If she has a choice, and not the State GOP, she should probably pick Goldwater's grandson, who lost the GOP primary for Governor in 2006, or Randy Graf, if she wants a safe shot at it. But, McCain's not going to win. Blagovich wants Lisa Madigan gone, so she will be gone. Jesse Jackson Jr. carries to much baggage, family wise and base wise, and opinions wise to win easily state wide. His base in southside of Chicago would alienate suburban chicago voters, and non-chicago area voters. I don't think he could win, the Republican margins in just about everywhere but Chicago and it's most liberal immediate suburbs, would be huge.  

Call no man happy until he is dead-Aeschylus

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Flake
Flake is unknown outside of northwest Arizona

If you mean among voters at large in Arizona, you may be right, I don't know. If you mean nationally, you are very much mistaken. Jeff Flake is practically worshipped by the small-government/Grover Norquist wing of the Republican party. I have acccess to Club for Growth mailings, and he is constantly dinned in their ears as the very model of a perfect Congress member, even more so than Mike Pence. He would have a built-in national money machine. If you asked ten Club donors to name their favorite Congressman, nine of them would say Flake, I'd bet.  

I can, however, imagine him refusing the appointment, as serving in the House gives him more leverage to influence spending bills.

 

Half the population believes our electoral system is broken. The other half believes it is fixed. Wakeuplaughing.com  


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Quayle lives in Arizona?
That's hilarious. Appointing him would make Dems shit themselves laughing as they think of the ways to ridicule him before sending his ass packing once again.

But seriously, if McCain's seat becomes vacant, I think Napolitano would be sly enough to appoint a very weak Republican appointee (since unlike Wyoming the choice is hers alone) and then running for Senate herself in 2010. She'll definitely clobber any GOPer, even if they're a moderate like Jim Kolbe. Hell, she may even give McCain a run for his money if he decides to seek reelection after failing a 2008 presidential bid.

Speaking of that, I think the most likely scenario is that McCain retires. After all, this would be his last chance at the presidency (he's wayy too old). And Napolitano would run for that vacant seat, since she has term limits in 2010 as governor.


Arizona
Napolitano would need to be careful.  When she picks someone, she gives that person some credibility.  How will she argue later that her own appointment makes a terrible senator, is unqualified, etc.?  Hopefully, she never needs to make this decision, but if she does, gaming should be subtle and she should pick a Republican who is as good on issues as possible.  I say Kolbe.  

Absolutely Kolbe
He's the most moderate and there's a good chance he wouldn't seek re-election.  And even if he did seek re-election he's almost certainly face a credible right-winger.  

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Who cares...
it's Obama who is going to need a replacement. :p

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I think
Blago takes the easy way out and picks Jesse White. White is a hero in IL politics, he's African-American and it would be a nice cherry on the top of one of the greatest African-American public officials in our history.

White will be a good place holder until 2010 where we'll see a beavy of Democrats looking to win the seat.


SurveyUSA May 2008 Senate Approval Ratings
These just posted to SurveyUSA today.  

Important Senator Approval numbers (Favorable/Unfavorable):
http://www.surveyusa.com/50Sta...

Pat Roberts (R-KS) - 50/41
Mitch McConnell (R-KY) - 57/37
Norm Coleman (R-MN) - 48/46
Gordon Smith (R-OR) - 45/47

Coleman and Smoth's approval ratings are horrendous, especially Smith's


McConnell seems to have gotten a bounce
Wonder if he took to the airwaves ater that poll showing him behind in the Senate race.

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Something Strange in Kentucky
In slightly less than one month, SUSA has McConnell going from 46-46 to 57-37, a 20 point gain.  But, they also have Bunning going from 39-48 to 49-40, an 18 point gain.  These two are by FAR the biggest changes in net approval rating of any of the Senators polled.  The next biggest change was Clinton, who went from 57-40 to 52-46, a 13  point drop.

I'm not aware of anything happening in Kentucky that would so drastically move McCaonnell's AND Bunning's numbers.  I'd guess SUSA somehow altered their model or who they're calling.


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Governor Beshear's approval is in the toilet
You'd think he'd at least have some honeymoon period after winning in a landslide just 6 months ago.  46/50 approval is horrendous.  Anyone know why he is so unpopular?

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He's a Democrat in KY?
I dunno.

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its probably related to Obama winning the Nomination
he'll be fine.

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Why would that affect him?
Did he endorse Hillary or something?

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He only endorsed after Obama clinched the deal
And his endorsement was for Obama:

http://www.wsaz.com/political/...

Again, I don't think Obama winning the presidential nod damaged Beshear -- his decline started far earlier than that event.


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I noticed while watching the Kentucky Derby...
on TV that Beshear was mostly booed when he was introduced and began speaking.  Then again it could just be due to the type of people who make up the derby crowd - rich snobs.  

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Don't think so.
If you look at the tracking graph, his approval started falling dramatically pretty quickly during his first few months in office.  If anything, these new numbers are a slight bump for him.

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I haven't been following too closely
But it doesn't seem like he's had a very productive relationship with the legislature so far.  Voters may feel that he hasn't really accomplished much so far.

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my rationele is this
The Democratic brand in Kentucky is damaged by Obama, because as I said I view them as one of the more racist states in the union and toughest for a black candidate to win in. (No offense to anyone who lives their) with him being on top of the ticket, I think their is a bit of a pox on all our houses theory and even though he was low in approvals before this I think this is one of the reasons it's low (Its not the only thing but I think their is a role). West Virginia is protected from this by Byrd and Rockefeller and is typically a democratic state on statewide level. Kentucky is not and therefore I think more susceptible to Republican spin on democrats.

That and I think he's not particularly a strong of governor who can define himself from just being another democrat. He's a mediocre uninspiring figure.

He wouldn't have won the governorship if Ernie Fletcher wasn't a corrupt ass.

It's a combination of national mood toward democrats in Kentucky (Which I called Obama, now that Obama is the Democratic Party) and his lack of being able to define an independent voice that could insulate himself from the national feeling towards democrats in his state..


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I agree about KY
My family is from Louisville and my grandmother was born and raised there in the 20's.  She has told me how things were in KY until recently.  Segregation and discrimination were widespread there just as they were in the deep south.  

Unlike other southern states I see little chance the state will become more democratic in my lifetime.  It's one of the very few states in the U.S. that appears to be trending red.  The state is overwhelmingly white and will be for the forseeable future.


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Lunsford is a good pick for Ky-Sen for this reason
He won't be confused as an "Obama" democrat. Yarmuth I think could although that  SUSA poll makes me feel much better.

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Lunsford won't be confused with being a Democrat period
I'm only behind him out of hatred for McConnell.

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lol yeah...
If him and Musgrove go into the Senate their will be a race with Ben Nelson about who can be the most conservative and piss us off most!

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Ben Nelson is getting better
Ever since he was re-elected in a landslide and we took control of the Senate he's voting with us far more than ever before.  I think Musgrove would be a decent Dem too and wouldn't ever think of switching parties.  Lunsford would switch parties the second he thinks it will help his career, he's proven that in the past.

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It has nothing to do with Obama
Beshear is a corrupt, hated disaster. His term has been a wreck. Democrats and Republicans have turned against him and he has done all kinds of stupid things. I doubt he will even run for re-election.

Last time I saw he had a net 20 approval or something like that so only net 4 isn't too bad for him.


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I hope it's Jackson or Schakowsky
but Chris Bowers had a good post at OpenLeft today on why Rahm getting it might not be so bad. It gets him out of the running for speaker, it let's his seat be taken by a progressive and there is a possibility he would lose the 2010 primary.

It's really hard to tell what Gov Rod will do though.


Jackson? You are joking right?
I'd like a person who could actually get elected to the seat the next time it's up for re-election.

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I don't mean to be rude
But I've gotten a bit of amusement out of people whose knowledge of IL politics is probably minimal making these types of blanket statements.

Jesse Jr. was actually expected to win the 04 Senate race and Barack only ran when Jesse decided not to.


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Who's going to beat him? Jim Ogo?
The IL Republican Party is a mess. That couldn't field a strong candidate if their lives depended on it. Jackson could win a general. It might not be quite as easy as it would be for others but he would not lose.

Also, Jesse Jackson Jr. is a progressive. In states were they can get elected I like electing progressives to the Senate.


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If I was Napolitano......
I would pick Jim Kolbe, because he probably wouldnt be likely to run for a full term and is more moderate.

A cat can have kittens in an oven but that doesn't make them biscuits.

Yes, and I think he'd accept the job
If for nothing else than to spite his party.

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As far as I know
I havent heard anything of Kolbe being uphappy with the GOP, only Randy Graf.  

A cat can have kittens in an oven but that doesn't make them biscuits.

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I hope she doesn't, for the sole reason
that I still hope to be the first (openly) gay Senator.

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I dunno, wmlawman . . .
. . . you may have some stiff competition from Tammy Baldwin, Jared Polis, Sam Adams, or David Cicilline.  

But I certainly hope that the first openly gay Senator will be a Democrat!  It'd be such a slap in the face if that milestone were achieved by a Republican.


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It damn well better be a Democrat.
Though I have to say, I finally understood Gay Repbulicans back in 04 when the leader of the Stonewall Dems and the Log Cabin Republicans came to talk to us.  The LCR made a lot of sense.

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Who is
Who is David Cicilline?

Good luck on Polis or Adams. Polis seems to be the underdog in his congressional race and Portland based politicans dont do that great statewide.

A cat can have kittens in an oven but that doesn't make them biscuits.


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David Cicilline is . . .
. . . the mayor of Providence, Rhode Island.

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Ugg no
didn't he get in a huge fight with the local firefighters union over a decent contract?

I'm putting my bets on Baldwin or someone who we don't know about yet.


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I'd be SHOCKED
If Tammy Baldwin ever became a US Senator. I say this as one of her constituents, she's not particularly charismatic, has no crossover appeal and will be easily painted as a Madison liberal. A Senate race against my other Congressman(I'm a college student) Paul Ryan, Ryan would beat her brains in.

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Barney Frank may beat you also.
Ted Kennedy's prognosis is pretty grim, and Frank is a leading contender for the seat.  At his age his chairmanship must be really hard to walk away from (he'd never be a chair in the Senate), but, first gay Senator would be damn hard to walk away from too.  It's a pretty pleasant dilemma if you ask me.

Besides, I'm gonna beat you too.  ; )

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08


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From what I've gleaned . . .
. . . the conventional wisdom is that the members of the Massachusetts delegation will defer to Ed Markey if Kennedy should step down for health reasons.  For that reason, and because of Barney Frank's status in the House, I doubt that Frank will be the first openly gay Senator.  (Isn't he already in the history books as the first openly gay Congressperson?)

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I think so.
I heard that he was getting too old to start over in the Senate, and with power in the House, why would he want to do that?

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You're going to beat me from Texas?
That's going to take some work.

I'm up here in NY, so that road is a bit easier.


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I'm in San Francisco now.
I'm not gonna let a mere cross-country move wreck the handle I've been using for five years.  Even if it is a lame handle.

If you're in New York, Sean Patrick Maloney is gonna beat you.  Last seen on David Paterson's staff, I think.

28, gay guy, Democrat, CA-08


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Lindsey Graham is a Senator
And I've never heard him being mistaken for being straight.

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The key word we've been using here . . .
. . . is openly.  There are, without a doubt, many closeted congresspersons, of both parties, who lead their gay lives strictly behind closed doors (or in bathroom stalls, as a certain Idahoan demonstrated last year).  Wmlawman and Texas Dem are each hoping to make history by being the first openly gay Senator.

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Exactly!
What she said.

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For AZ
I see only three realistic choices for Napolitano: the only two Republicans she's appointed to statewide office -- Corporation Commissioner Kris Mayes (Napolitano's former press secretary) or former Secretary of State Betsey Bayless -- or current SecState Jan Brewer, who's the party's strongest candidate for governor.

Bayless might be the best choice if she agrees not to run for a full term.

The Crolian Progressive: as great an adventure as ever I heard of...


the interesting thing about appointments
is how it affects the governor's standing.  in MN, our popular governor Wendy Anderson virtually appointed himself senator in 1976 (following Mondale becoming VP) leading to one of the worst party massacres in American history (similar to OH '06).  we lost the governor and both US Senate seats.

so appointing oneself one CANNOT do.

appointing a member of the opposite party is weird, especially if napolitano is interested in running for the seat herself.  she shouldn't appoint a strong candidate, yet she can't just pick a total joke without voters becoming disgusted by her attempt to "game the system."

kolbe is a perfect choice - except that he might refuse.  shaddegg might be a tough opponent, but his seat is the most vulnerable to democrat in a special election (assuming kirkpatrick is elected in AZ-1).

let's just get obama elected and blago can choose hynes who should be able to hold the seat fairly easily.  madigan can get elected governor and everything's neat and tidy.  similar to when kaine appoints deeds to fill webb's seat til '10 and clears the gov race for brian moran:)


I'll add to that
Appointing oneself OR a family member is bad.  Just look at Frank Murkowski after he appointed Lisa Murkowski to his Senate seat.  Lisa survived in 2004 but Frank never recovered from that, among many other things.

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Kolbe isn't the only openly gay Republican in AZ
Try Steve May, he's currently in legislature. He's Log Cabin who ended up endorsing John Kerry For president in '04

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
he's in the begining of the clip

Male 21 Dem Ca's 1st  



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