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WY-AL: Poll Shows Tight Race

by: DavidNYC

Fri May 30, 2008 at 12:56 PM EDT


Research 2000 for DailyKos (5/20-21, likely voters, no trendlines):

Gary Trauner (D): 44
Cynthia Lummis (R): 41
(MoE: ±4%)

The poll has a sample of 48R-24D-28I. Exit polls from 2004 showed turnouts at 53R-25D-22I. If this shift from R to I is accurate, that's a heartening sign, seeing as most independents these days lean Dem. Indeed, Trauner carries that group 58-32. He also fares far better among Dems (85-11) than Lummis does among Republicans (62-15).

These results are very similar to a Casper Star-Tribune poll from January, which had Trauner edging Lummis 41-40. Then as now, Trauner had more solid support from his own party than Lummis. However, the GOP hasn't decided on a nominee yet, and won't until late in the summer - August 19th, in fact. Lummis, a former Secretary of State, has to contend with rancher Mark Gordon, who has raised considerably more than she has - though the bulk of his haul actually consists of a $300K donation he made to his own campaign.

Markos didn't poll a Trauner-Gordon matchup, but he may want to the next time R2K is in the field: a Gordon internal poll from earlier this month showed him up 39-23 over Lummis. That poll, though, showed 30% undecideds, and I'm going to bet that surveying likely voters for a primary in the dog days of summer is a very inexact science.

Depending on how divisive this primary gets, GOP support may or may not coalesce around the eventual nominee. Right now, Lummis at least seems pretty untarnished, with a 49-29 favorability rating. Trauner's numbers are similar, 52-31, and he still has a little room for growth (17% have no opinion of him). He'll need to hope that Republican support for his opponent, whoever it may be, stays soft, and he'll also need to eke out some more votes from undecided independents. If Trauner can do that, lightning might just strike.

P.S. Bonus finding: McCain leads Obama 53-40. Kerry lost this state 69-29.

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Voter registration stats
Voter registration stats do not match up with these numbers.  I suspect that some Wyoming "Republicans" are like southern Democrats and more likely to switch.  Given that, registration is down by 38,000 (14.8%) with the Democratic share up 1.7% (hard number) to 27.2% and the Republican share down 2.3% to 62.2%.  This is about half the shift that the poll is using but I suspect it may be close to the truth.

This Would Be A Huge Pickup
And does anyone remember the last Democrat that represented Wyoming's At large district?

wikipedia says
Teno Roncalio. 1971-1979. Replaced with, yup that's right.Dick Cheney. OH! I would love to take his old congressional seat!

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This is awesome, but worries remain
This result confirms the M-D poll which showed Trauner doing well.  I find it very interesting that he is doing better than Lummis with the female electorate.  Those exit polls are also interesting.  Gary could dominate among Dems and independents -- and he did in 2006 -- and still lose.  I do not think that Republicans will be more likely to vote for him this year with Cubin off the ballot, and the presidential and Senate races there.  He is going to need to run up his D and I margins even higher.  

From the limited amount of recent coverage on this race that I have read, Gordon seems to be doing pretty well.  Hopefully Lummis can pull it out because I would prefer not to face a fresh-faced candidate.  

One thing worries me that has not gotten a lot of discussion.  Obviously, we have the typical concern of having McCain at the top of the ticket, but this year both WY Senate seats are up, and neither of them are being seriously contested, so Lummis or Gordon is going to have McCain-Enzi-Barrasso above their name.  This will not be helpful.  Gary is going to need to be up by five points+ in the last poll(s) to pull this out.  


Yes, but
McCain, Enzi and Barrasso are all walk over wins for the GOP. And the electroate knows that. So there is no reason for republicans to run to the polls in November.

But for democrats and independents supporting Trauner there is. And with the Obama team doing an effort to register new democratic voters in the state, that might even put him over the top!


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Governor Freudenthal?
Why again couldn't we have gotten him to run against Barrasso?  It's not like Barrasso has held that seat for long.

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Believe me, they tried
The national party tried for some time to get him to go after a Senate seat.  Right after Craig Thomas died, there was discussion of this.  Even though state law hamstrung Gov. Dave on his choice (he was forced to pick one of three names submitted by the WY GOP), he could have gone with the weakest choice, which ironically enough was probably Cynthia Lummis.  The Guv had some past history with Lummis, and instead tapped Barrasso who was seen as the strongest nominee for election, as he has statewide name recognition based on his work and a previous run for Senate (where he placed second to Mike Enzi).  

I really like Freudenthal and he probably could have won the seat outright.  The guy got 70 percent of the vote against a well known Republican when he was re-elected in '06.  He has said on several occasions that he has no interest in moving to DC.  Heck, his daughter had to beg him to go to the convention this year -- and it is in Denver.  He is quite the homebody.

Chuck has done very well with recruiting the last two cycles, but we can't win them all.


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Do we have anyone at all to suceed him in 2010?
I'd hate to think that our only real household name Dem in Wyoming will just retire when his second term is up with no possible Dem sucessor.  If he has no aspirations of going to Washington it seems that our bench in Wyoming is empty.

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Of course that could change...
If we can get Trauner elected to the House this year.

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In WY, our bench will always be thin
In Wyoming, we are probably never going to have a deep bench like we can develop in just about every other state.  Still, something like four of the last five governors have been Democrats.  Freudenthal scored a huge win in 2002 -- when Bush's appeal was near its apex -- in a race that has never gotten much attention.  

We have also had several close losses: obviously Trauner almost won in 2006, and in 1988 the late John Vinich came within a whisker of knocking off Sen. Malcolm Wallop.  The state will elect Democrats, though we have not had the House seat in around 30 years, and our Senate drought there is even longer.  

After his close loss in 2006, I was of the mind that Trauner should wait until 2010 and run for governor.  He had major guts running again for Congress in a presidential year, and I hope his hard work is rewarded.  


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I doubt Presidential politics will hurt us in WY this year
Obama is going to lose WY handily, that's for sure.  But this section of the midwest is one area where Obama seems to have some appeal.  And I suspect McCain isn't exactly a favorite among WY conservatives anyway.  Obama is certain to perform far better in WY than we have in the last two elections, which shouldn't hurt is in downballot races.

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There's a reason I've included Rothfuss's race in my "future" endorsement list.
In order to build a bench in Wyoming, we're going to have to start helping Democrats (fundraising and otherwise) to build strong positive reputations in the state, even if they have no chance of winning.  I seriously doubt that Rothfuss can win against Enzi short of a scandal (and even with a scandal it'd be hard as heck), but I believe he's the kind of fresh new Democrat that the party could use.  Running for Senate as a scientist and policy wonk concerned about science policy--that's an admirable goal.  It's almost guaranteed to be insufficient to put him over the top, sure, but we've gotta start building a Democratic brand somewhere.

Trauner's strong chance at the House seat and Freudenthal's popular governorship are a good groundwork on which to start.

As for Nick Carter and Keith Goodenough (running against Barrasso) and Al Hamburg (also running against Enzi), I don't know enough about them.  But--no offense to them--I haven't yet heard of anything majorly inspiring.  Though, based on his website, Carter seems to at least be putting some effort into the race.

(Granted, I'd rather people who aren't lawyers or career politicians to run for office, because (1) I think legislatures deal with very practical issues that people of other professional backgrounds might be better suited to manage, and (2) I don't like it when the Republicans can point at us and say that we're a bunch of trial lawyers, even if they've got their own load of trial lawyers on their side anyway.)

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


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Not surprising
Lummis is nowhere near being a top-tier recruit.  I believe quite a few better republicans passed before Lummis jumped in.  Trauner is an excellent campaigner who nearly won it in 2006.  I really believe this race will be a tossup on election day.

Go Trauner!!!


party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01


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