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AL-03: Segall Announces Rematch Against Rogers

by: DavidNYC

Tue Apr 14, 2009 at 5:52 PM EDT


Via a press release:

Josh Segall, the 2008 Democratic nominee for Congress in Alabama's 3rd district, announced today that he will mount a campaign against Mike Rogers (R-Saks) in the 2010 Congressional election.

"It's time for a new direction.  I am a fiscal conservative who will work to create and attract 21st Century jobs to east Alabama so that hardworking people can get ahead," said Segall.

"Alabama is suffering under irresponsible policies that bail out greedy executives who created this mess and leave hardworking Alabama families holding the bag.  Rogers supported the Wall Street bailout, but did nothing for Main Street Alabama.   He voted to send Alabama jobs overseas, when what we needed was a plan to create good jobs at home.  It's time to stand up to special interest politics and put Alabama families first once again," said Segall.

Segall, as most folks here know, performed impressively last cycle: The DCCC didn't target this race, and Segall was outspent 2-to-1, yet he still held incumbent GOPer Mike Rogers to a 54-46 margin. He also outperformed Obama, who lost the district 56-43 according to the Swing State Project's analysis - though Obama actually did a bit better here than Kerry did.

PVI-wise, however, the district moved from R+4 to R+9, because Obama's slight improvement on 2004 trailed his overall nationwide surge. But I think Alabama is a classic case that demonstrates the limits of something like the PVI. As we saw last cycle, Democrats retained AL-05 (R+12) and picked up AL-02 (R+16), showing that candidates with the right local appeal can wind up with very different results from the top of the ticket.

Segall got in relatively late last time - this cycle, with greater name rec and experience under his belt, he'll have more time to raise money and campaign. Also, with Artur Davis out at the DCCC (background here), this race could wind up getting some national help. I'm looking forward to following this one.

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ROCK!
C'mon DCCC, Artur Davis is a governor candidate now and should not hold sway on your opinion here any more.

Let's see a 4-3 Dem delegation from Alabama!

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


Go Segall!!
He ran a great race in 2008 and probably would have won had the DCCC made a late expenditure in the race.  

He still lost by 8 points
I seriously doubt that any last-minute expenditures would've really been enough to shake that race. That being said, since Rogers is clearly vulnerable, I can definitely see the DCCC investing money fairly early on and give us a real shot at winning the seat.

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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six points I think
Some late ballots pushed it further in Segall's direction.  

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My conclusion is the same in either case
I doubt we would've won that seat without investing early (which is something we really should do this time around)

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24, Male, Democrat, NM-01, Chairman of the Atheist Caucus, and Majority Leader of the "Going to Hell" caucus!


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Josh Segall is a Democrat we can be proud of
I know some of y'all are all about electing more Democrats -- we did a bit of that in Alabama last election.  Now I want to elect a "more and better" Democrat in the person of Josh Segall.  We've had enough of Mike Rogers shooting his mouth off while accomplishing nothing for his constituents.  

Progressive voices for Alabama at Left In Alabama

I'm glad to hear this
I like Josh Segall, and I think that he has a good chance to win a rematch now that he has experience running for office and his fundraising will probably be better. This should be interesting to watch.

Money
By jumping into the race at an earlier point this cycle, Segall may find himself at less of a financial disadvantage -- Rogers has yet to file his first quarter fundraising report, but he ended 2008 with $42K in the bank (i.e. drained).

Last time, Rogers outgunned Segall by a $2M-$1M margin.


Speaking of money for Segall
We've got him up on our Act Blue Page

I just donated $150 to Josh right now. I need your help folks. We have got to go early on some of these races.

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Segall ran a decent campaign, yes...
But as I've stated before, his outreach to various college campuses in the district was just unimpressive.

And now, during a mid-term election, the turnout of young voters/college students is going to be lower unless he steps it up this time.


How about you "step it up"?
Candidates have limited time and resources.  Instead of throwing stones, maybe you could organize the campus for Segall or other Dems irrespective of what a candidate does or doesn't do.

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How do you even know I didn't try?
Or that the Auburn University Democrats didn't do what we're suppose to do?

Fact is, Segall talked to Opelika-Auburn News, but didn't bother to grant an interview with the Auburn Plainsman (at least not that I'm aware of).  His "campus outreach directors" didn't do much of outreach at all.

I'm not saying Josh ran a bad campaign, because he didn't.  But he ran a traditional campaign in a district where he just can't win without support from non-traditional voters (aka White Southerners who just vote straight party for Republicans).


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Clarify
I meant traditional voters = white southerners who just vote straight party for republicans.

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Aka racists
And boy is Alabama chock full of them.  They sure hate their black folk there.

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lol no kidding...
As long as Segall doesn't try to boost his vote share in Lee County (he lost by 8k when the county should have been a swing one...), he's not going to win in AL-03.

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Now this is a rematch I'm excited about
That district was drawn to be winnable for a Democrat, and I think Segall can do it.  We should stop prioritizing guys that barely vote with us like Bobby Bright and Parker Griffith, and start investing in Democrats that at least won't embarrass us constantly.  Let's get some real Democrats in there.

What's so bad about Parker?
The previous Rep was Bud Cramer and it is my understanding that Parker is to the left of Bud. Didn't Parker campaign on Universal Health Care?

Cramer didn't even get an opponent in 2006. I expect in 2-3 cycles Griffith will be fine and leading on furthering whatever health care reform we start.

So why are we against him?

Bright, however, I am not fond of.

26, Male, Democrat, TX-26


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Yeah, Griffith replaced Cramer
the point is, the DCCC drops millions to win these deep-red seats with conservative Democrats, at the expense of much easier-to-win seats, ones that could produce moderate or even progressive Democrats.

Frustrating though Bright is, he does at least deny the GOP one more winger, I'm just saying we need to prioritize our efforts.  It's embarrassing that we let Gerlach slide last year.  Obama won his district by 17 points and almost dragged some placeholder past Gerlach into Congress.


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Yeah
That was one completely huge f up by the DCCC.  How did they not recruit a single challenger?  I mean he won by 4% against a nobody, one would've to have given a credible challenger at least a better than 50% chance.

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Well, how hard did Gerlach campaign against Roggio?
Because it's possible that the 52-48 was a result of Roggio nearly slipping by.

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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His record has been a bit right of Cramer
Though it's completely understandable.  I'd expect Griffith to be cautious for one or two terms before he becomed entrenched.

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Griffith could be looking at Cramer
Cramer started off pretty liberal when he was first elected here, supporting abortion rights and gun control, but he swung hard right after 1994 when he nearly lost his seat.  Griffith likely has this in mind when he votes.  

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Probably
Though after Cramer's one close call he won easily nearly every election after that.  After a few cycles he did move back left a bit.

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Rogers (AL-03) shockingly bad 1st Q 2009 number
Rogers has less than 35k on hand - major difference from 2008 when had nearly a million in the bank

and with 25K campaign debt, that leaves a net $10K !??
Is he running for re-election?

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This is indeed good news!
Looks like those deep pocket contributors are not opening up their pocket for Rogers this time around!

The outlook for Josh is brighter now... let's hope DCCC would jump in early + Josh would adjust his approach with the student voters.


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Joseph Cao (LA-02) more money raised and on hand than Rogers (AL-03
Wow - that is just wild stuff

Cao raised $143k and shows $60k cash on hand.  


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Wait, this guy is raising money?
How is that possible?

party: Democratic, ideology: moderate, district: CT-01

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